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At least these are the latest reports


Jermall Charlo has also called out Plant and says he'll beat him and then fight Canelo. Maybe Canelo-Plant not happening encourages Mall to move up, as then his own fight with Plant opens up, and if Charlo does want Canelo he'll need to move up anyway if Canelo sticks to his word about not returning to 160.
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Re: Canelo-Plant falling apart; Canelo-Bivol being eyed

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Charlo leapfrogging Benavidez after calling dude out and then backtracking when David called his bluff, saying he's a 160 lb fighter and not even considering the feud between Benavidez and Plant, is pretty fucked. Missing out on a Canelo payday for Plant is also pretty fucked.

I get the angle, keep the IBF strap in house for another fight or two while propping up the status of the winner to leverage Canelo into a better split and the 3 fight contract they've been trying to lock him into, but Canelo has proven he's not going to be leaned on at this stage of his career. Shit's corny. Boxing is worse than it's ever been due to this type shit.
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I figured there was a high likelihood that Haymon and Plant would get cute in negotiations.
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Bivol would probably put up a better fight
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Canvas wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:33 pm I figured there was a high likelihood that Haymon and Plant would get cute in negotiations.
I know this article i read was from Plants POV but sounds like they gave Canelo everything he wanted. So how can you put all the blame on Haymon and Plant. Just wondering
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The boring counter puncher Caleb Plant would get KTFO vs. Canello so, I'm glad to hear about the possibility of Bivol getting a shot at Canelo. Bivol who is a young talented boxer with power in both hands and I think he would give Canelo a better fight...
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The boring counter puncher Caleb Plant would get KTFO vs. Canello so, I'm glad to hear about the possibility of Bivol getting a shot at Canelo. Bivol who is a young talented boxer with power in both hands and I think he would give Canelo a better fight...
On paper Bivol gives Canelo a better fight. But if he has to cut down to 168, how effective will he truly be?

But honestly for me...I just wanted to see Canelo blast the highly overrated Plant into oblivion.
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Do people rate Plant that highly?

I think a fight vs Bivol would be at 175...
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Tocsin wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:21 pm Do people rate Plant that highly?

I think a fight vs Bivol would be at 175...
A few months back, about the time Canelo dropped the 175 belt, Reynoso said there were no plans to return to 175. Pretty sure they would hold Bivol to an earlier offer to fight at 168.
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They've been talking about LHW lately and Canelo has said he wants Beterbiev. He seems pretty beefed up (pun intended) now and I suspect he'll be at 168-175 the next few years.
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Bivol has said repeatedly 168 is no problem for him for a big fight. He's not a big lightheavy. It could be a catch weight for Bivol's trinket or 168. Either would be fine to me.

LOL @ Plant thinking he has pull in negotiations. What's Plant's biggest purse to date? He is barely relevant. Plant should stfu and sign as quickly as he can and be grateful for the opportunity. What is his fallback option, A PBC showcase vs Dirrell for maybe a million bucks? He has shown no interest in risking his trinket vs Benavidez for a quarter of the purse Canelo would give him.
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Bivol is the better fight as it is.....Small Light Heavy But Skilled
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Decent fight, ppv unfortunately. I won't be buying at those prices.
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Done deal. Decent fight but i guess Haymon 🤷 didn't get to cute getting the deal done right
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Re: CANELO vs PLANT Saturday

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Saturday 6, November 2021
MGM Grand, Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
commission Nevada Athletic Commission
promoter Saul Alvarez (Canelo Promotions), Tom Brown (TGB Promotions)
matchmaker Tom Brown

super middle
Saul Alvarez 56 1 2
:idea:
Caleb Plant 21 0 0
World Boxing Council World Super Middle Title
World Boxing Association Super World Super Middle Title
International Boxing Federation World Super Middle Title (supervisor: Levi Martinez)
World Boxing Organisation World Super Middle Title

super light
Elvis Rodriguez 11 1 1
:idea:
Juan Pablo Romero 14 0 0

super bantam
Rey Vargas 34 0 0
:idea:
Leonardo Baez 21 4 0

super middle
Anthony Dirrell 33 2 2
:idea:
Marcos Hernandez 15 4 2

super feather
Jose Manuel Gomez 12 0 0
:idea:
Jose Antonio Meza 7 6 0

super light
Rances Barthelemy 28 1 1
:idea:
Gustavo David Vittori 25 9 1

fly
Joselito Velazquez 13 0 1
:idea:
Gilberto Mendoza 19 10 3

super fly
Jan Salvatierra 7 0 0
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Fernando Diaz 9 1 1



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Plant is a runner that has no killer instinct...NONE.

He won't be able to keep Canelo off of him at all.

He's taller...but also much leaner. Canelo dominates these tall, lanky, skinny guys.

He will punish Plant to the body and eventually stop him.

He will make it look easy.
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Canelo will pollinate Plant inside of 6
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I'm warming to this fight a little. Not sure what's changed in my mind or why but I'm starting to think Plant might make it interesting.
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Re: CANELO vs PLANT Saturday

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Cagiva9 wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:03 pm I'm warming to this fight a little. Not sure what's changed in my mind or why but I'm starting to think Plant might make it interesting.
I'm excited for it. Plant is a good slick boxer that moves well, sticks a good jab and stays busy with sharp combinations. I think it goes 12 and at the very least is competitive. Canelo has improved over the years but he's never been impressive against movers. I think he'll get the decision based on landing the more eye catching punches but won't look too comfortable.
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mannymac wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:15 pm Canelo will pollinate Plant inside of 6
Lol nice.
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NoPropaganda 253 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:30 pm
mannymac wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:15 pm Canelo will pollinate Plant inside of 6
Lol nice.
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