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MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
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Pre fight notes:
-Ali ranked #2 and Jones #3
-Eliminator to face champion Sonny Liston
-Ali 202.5 lbs and Jones 188lbs at the weigh-in
-The Rhyming Prophet Cassius Clay
-Clay predicted a 6th round Stoppage but then changed it to 4th
-Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey ringside
-They talked about research being done to get a retirement fund for fighters going
Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
ROUND 1
That is a pretty hard round to judge. Jones starts hard, does good work on the inside and lands a big right that sends Ali hurt into the ropes... https://uploadir.com/u/f7u9w6e7
Then it starts to become obvious who has the best arsenal and reach when Ali regains a little control. Ali truly lets it go with about 40 sec. left in the round with a long flurry and well mixed punches. https://uploadir.com/u/mm3iuff3
But who was more effective in that particular round? IMO it Would have to be Jones with that big shot.
That is a pretty hard round to judge. Jones starts hard, does good work on the inside and lands a big right that sends Ali hurt into the ropes... https://uploadir.com/u/f7u9w6e7
Then it starts to become obvious who has the best arsenal and reach when Ali regains a little control. Ali truly lets it go with about 40 sec. left in the round with a long flurry and well mixed punches. https://uploadir.com/u/mm3iuff3
But who was more effective in that particular round? IMO it Would have to be Jones with that big shot.
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Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
Ive never seen this. It won foty so im excited to see it
Im going to use modern 10 point must scoring
Im going to use modern 10 point must scoring
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Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
Rd 1. : jones. Ali recovered and ended the round in control but jones landed the harder and hardest shot.
Rd 2: ali. Handspeed and combinations were great. Jones landed some good shots but ali wins it
Rd 3: ali. Jab dominated first 2 minutes and combinations the last 1 minute
Rd 4: ali threw a lot of punches. Won the round but looked ragged at the end
Rd 5: ali very quick but Jones landed the cleaner harder punches. Rd to jones
Rd 6: jones landed all the good punches. Ali busy but arm punching. Rd to jones.
Rd 7: tough rd to score. Ali kept distance well and defended well. Rd to ali
Rd 8: great round. Jones landed the harder shots. Ali recovered well. Jones rd
Rd 9: ali round. Much busier. Dug deep
Rd 10: wow. Ali put it on Jones. What a warrior.
Ali wins 96 to 94 on my card
Rd 2: ali. Handspeed and combinations were great. Jones landed some good shots but ali wins it
Rd 3: ali. Jab dominated first 2 minutes and combinations the last 1 minute
Rd 4: ali threw a lot of punches. Won the round but looked ragged at the end
Rd 5: ali very quick but Jones landed the cleaner harder punches. Rd to jones
Rd 6: jones landed all the good punches. Ali busy but arm punching. Rd to jones.
Rd 7: tough rd to score. Ali kept distance well and defended well. Rd to ali
Rd 8: great round. Jones landed the harder shots. Ali recovered well. Jones rd
Rd 9: ali round. Much busier. Dug deep
Rd 10: wow. Ali put it on Jones. What a warrior.
Ali wins 96 to 94 on my card
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Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
The ref gave ali 8 rounds ..... little known fact he is adalaie byrds grandfather
Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
ROUND 2
Ali with the great hab early. but Jones again able to close distance and land the left hook... Did it thrice in this round. Also landed a big right at the end of the round. But IMO Ali got the round with the combo work he started about half way in the round. Landed big flush rights, hooks in combos and one big uppercut! https://uploadir.com/u/envshd30
Ali with the great hab early. but Jones again able to close distance and land the left hook... Did it thrice in this round. Also landed a big right at the end of the round. But IMO Ali got the round with the combo work he started about half way in the round. Landed big flush rights, hooks in combos and one big uppercut! https://uploadir.com/u/envshd30
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ROUND 3
Big rights landed by Jones in the first half. Ali starting to jab and set up straights. Ali landed the biggest blows of round with one minute left in the round. Big combos... Ali round. https://uploadir.com/u/ns0q11z3
Big rights landed by Jones in the first half. Ali starting to jab and set up straights. Ali landed the biggest blows of round with one minute left in the round. Big combos... Ali round. https://uploadir.com/u/ns0q11z3
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ROUND 4
Jones out jabbing Ali in the first minute. Ali then regained control of the jabbing aspect with a peppered jab and mixed shots. Ali landed so much shots in this round... Impressive stuff. Ali round. https://uploadir.com/u/uul5mi52
Jones out jabbing Ali in the first minute. Ali then regained control of the jabbing aspect with a peppered jab and mixed shots. Ali landed so much shots in this round... Impressive stuff. Ali round. https://uploadir.com/u/uul5mi52
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ROUND 5
Round starting while the crowd is booing because Ali didn't fufill his prediction. Ali jab and moving in the first half because he spent lots of stamina trying to gauge if a stoppage was possible in the previous round. Round still up for grabs half way. With one minute left in the round, Jones landed the 2 biggest blows. Jones closed the round with another big combo of power punches landed flush. Jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/8ifhcykq
Round starting while the crowd is booing because Ali didn't fufill his prediction. Ali jab and moving in the first half because he spent lots of stamina trying to gauge if a stoppage was possible in the previous round. Round still up for grabs half way. With one minute left in the round, Jones landed the 2 biggest blows. Jones closed the round with another big combo of power punches landed flush. Jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/8ifhcykq
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ROUND 6
One of the close rounds imo. Depends what you are looking for. Ali showing lots of dazzle and even almost shoe shining a body combo... But the big work was done by Jones body punching, the left while closing distance & the work on the inside. Jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/ia43uecd
One of the close rounds imo. Depends what you are looking for. Ali showing lots of dazzle and even almost shoe shining a body combo... But the big work was done by Jones body punching, the left while closing distance & the work on the inside. Jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/ia43uecd
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ROUND 7
Ali peppering the jab, using defensive footwork and taking an "off" round imo. Even held at some point. Landed a few combos at the end of the round. But Jones landed a few very good flush shots that imo gave him the round. Even made Ali pay for an audacious uppercut to the body. jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/o2q4aiid
Ali peppering the jab, using defensive footwork and taking an "off" round imo. Even held at some point. Landed a few combos at the end of the round. But Jones landed a few very good flush shots that imo gave him the round. Even made Ali pay for an audacious uppercut to the body. jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/o2q4aiid
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ROUND 8
Some nice work by Clay but he got hit flush in the final minute... with lots of big shots including some that seem to shake him a little... Ali at least hurt his ego because he came back with combos to close the round. Bigger shots by Jones. Jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/ghc5afl1
Controversial fights are often this type of fights where one of the fighters wins the rounds by a wider clearer margin and not the other. So far the Ali rounds were clearer imo... Jones rounds were closer. But not this one. this was IMO Jones' best round.
Some nice work by Clay but he got hit flush in the final minute... with lots of big shots including some that seem to shake him a little... Ali at least hurt his ego because he came back with combos to close the round. Bigger shots by Jones. Jones round. https://uploadir.com/u/ghc5afl1
Controversial fights are often this type of fights where one of the fighters wins the rounds by a wider clearer margin and not the other. So far the Ali rounds were clearer imo... Jones rounds were closer. But not this one. this was IMO Jones' best round.
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ROUND 9
Ali way way busier. Shoe shines, counter hooks, big flush shots... Lots of arm punching but lots of skills and heart in this one. Ali round. https://uploadir.com/u/hzkccqcp
Ali way way busier. Shoe shines, counter hooks, big flush shots... Lots of arm punching but lots of skills and heart in this one. Ali round. https://uploadir.com/u/hzkccqcp
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ROUND 10
Ali looked a little fatigiued pre round... But as soon as the round started, i think you could see the greatness in him. He landed some very crafty final round combos... stuff that could get many 'out of there'... Half way in the round, that was a clear Ali round already... What a closer. Spectacular finish by Ali with Jones taking brutal punishment. Nasty counter left hook by Ali with 20 sec. left. I think almost the full round is Hls worthy. WOW. https://uploadir.com/u/kx5zo2dz
Ali looked a little fatigiued pre round... But as soon as the round started, i think you could see the greatness in him. He landed some very crafty final round combos... stuff that could get many 'out of there'... Half way in the round, that was a clear Ali round already... What a closer. Spectacular finish by Ali with Jones taking brutal punishment. Nasty counter left hook by Ali with 20 sec. left. I think almost the full round is Hls worthy. WOW. https://uploadir.com/u/kx5zo2dz
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DRAW
clear case of most controversial fights caused by the 10-9 system in which one fighter wins half the rounds clearly (Ali) and the other closely (Jones).
I really like the 5-4-1 Clay card... reflects the fight well... Ali wins but it was close with some Jones rounds being hard to define to him.
clear case of most controversial fights caused by the 10-9 system in which one fighter wins half the rounds clearly (Ali) and the other closely (Jones).
I really like the 5-4-1 Clay card... reflects the fight well... Ali wins but it was close with some Jones rounds being hard to define to him.
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Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
The then young Cassius Clay had boldly predicted that he would stop Jones in the sixth round and later cut that prediction to the fourth round.
He supplying a number of rhymes to that effect:
"The boy likes to mix so he must fall in six."
"I'm changing the pick I made before. Instead of six, Doug goes in four."
And the "epic":
"Doug Jones will fall in six because I like the New York Knicks.
"If Doug Jones gives me jive, Doug Jones will fall in five.
If Doug Jones talks some more, Doug Jones will fall in four."
Of course, unlike other predictions he had made, he wasn't able to make good on any of the ones he made regarding Jones. When Jones not only remained upright through four but was still competitive, many of the fans in attendance starting booing Clay. He went on to win a deserved, close but unanimous decision. You would have thought he would have learned his lesson to not underestimate his opponent. He didn't but he did his next fight when he had to pick himself up off the canvas to stop Henry Cooper.
He predicted he'd stop Cooper in five. He could have stopped him much earlier but fooled around and kept the fight going. He even talked with Elizabeth Taylor who was sitting ringside during the fight. Near the end of the fourth round, Cooper landed his famed left hook and down went Clay. Dundee bought him a few extra seconds during the break, and Clay, fully recovered, came out focused and as mean as he could be for the fifth. He pummeled Cooper, slicing and dicing him in process. The ref had no choice but to rescue Cooper from the intense assault!
He supplying a number of rhymes to that effect:
"The boy likes to mix so he must fall in six."
"I'm changing the pick I made before. Instead of six, Doug goes in four."
And the "epic":
"Doug Jones will fall in six because I like the New York Knicks.
"If Doug Jones gives me jive, Doug Jones will fall in five.
If Doug Jones talks some more, Doug Jones will fall in four."
Of course, unlike other predictions he had made, he wasn't able to make good on any of the ones he made regarding Jones. When Jones not only remained upright through four but was still competitive, many of the fans in attendance starting booing Clay. He went on to win a deserved, close but unanimous decision. You would have thought he would have learned his lesson to not underestimate his opponent. He didn't but he did his next fight when he had to pick himself up off the canvas to stop Henry Cooper.
He predicted he'd stop Cooper in five. He could have stopped him much earlier but fooled around and kept the fight going. He even talked with Elizabeth Taylor who was sitting ringside during the fight. Near the end of the fourth round, Cooper landed his famed left hook and down went Clay. Dundee bought him a few extra seconds during the break, and Clay, fully recovered, came out focused and as mean as he could be for the fifth. He pummeled Cooper, slicing and dicing him in process. The ref had no choice but to rescue Cooper from the intense assault!
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Re: MUHAMMAD ALI vs DOUG JONES
That 2as fun but we were the only ones Participating....lets give 1 more a shot
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More recent war.... let's see if more like that
Ibeabuchi and tua
More recent war.... let's see if more like that
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The good ol' days.
The good ol' days.
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OTD 1963