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Thoughts? Some Ive seen say around 300k, others specify over 300k , but does seem we will be looking at a number in the 300s.

Seems pretty solid, though shows the HWs still have work to do to become the big stars in the US like they once were. Break even point (after which the fighters had upside on their $4m and $3m guarantees) was apparently 250k, so they should both make over $5m I'd think.
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Ummm, that's pretty poor I'd say.

All the money they spent on promotion, the TV series, the tour...

That type of promotion should be doing huge numbers...
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Thats an outstanding number if thats the case. Mayz you dont know what you are taliing about here
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If 300K is true, I think its decent given the circumstances. Wilder doesnt have a following, and Fury was probably relatively unknown in the United States. Matter of fact Wllder's name isnt well known either apparently.
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yeah, this is better than i would have imagined...
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I expected much lower as well. This shouldnt have been PPV in my opinion.
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At $75, 300K is a great number in the United States. Not to mention, it was the FIRST PPV for Wilder.
PPV Revenue: $75 x 300k = $22,500,000.00 USD.
Gate: TBA, but apparently it was the second largest gate for boxing at Staples Center behind DLH-SSM.
The Wilder-Fury 2 PPV against Fury will crack 1 million easily now because the demand is there.
Now Wilder can easily get a 50/50 $100M fight against Fury. :lol: :lol:

Look at the comparisons...

GGG-Jacobs 170k
Canlelo-Lara 300k
Canelo-Smith 300k
Cotto-Martinez 315k
Canelo-Angulo 315k
Mayweather-Baldomir 325k
Mayweather-Gatti 340k
Pacquiao-Morales I 345K
Mayweather-Judah 375k
Mayweather-Berto 400k
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I think 300k is good for this fight, I honestly thought it would be lower.
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Im curious in terms of the official numbers.
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Good number. Strangely though Comcast didn’t allow me to purchase it on the night of the fight. I do t know if it crashed or what
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74.99+tax more like 85.00 dollars so were looking at 26 million in ppv sales so I say it's a success and were not couting the overseas money these guys are at bug paydays....BIG SUCCESS
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stunna 2.0 wrote:74.99+tax more like 85.00 dollars so were looking at 26 million in ppv sales so I say it's a success and were not couting the overseas money these guys are at bug paydays....BIG SUCCESS
no one counts tax as part of PPV sales.

All in all, great result if that is the true number. I thought this might do 200K sales max. The fight does not give both fighters more 8 figure payday, but it upped the profile for both and their next fight will be for even more massive money
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If 300k is a good number with that much promotion, then boxing really is dead in the US!

Not really a huge number, you can get 100k into a stadium...
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If 300k is a good number with that much promotion, then boxing really is dead in the US!

Not really a huge number, you can get 100k into a stadium...
First you said it had no promotion, and nobody knew who Wilder was, now you say it was being promoted?

Just stop it man, you sound desperate to trash anything to do with this fight. The fight did a lot better than most people thought, and like it or not, Fury and Wilder have built up some good momentum, and have really put themselves out there for the American public.

And this is the United States, we could care less if you guys in the UK watch boxing in a soccer stadium. We watch most of our boxing in arenas, and play soccer on small little league fields.
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Danielk015 wrote:
stunna 2.0 wrote:74.99+tax more like 85.00 dollars so were looking at 26 million in ppv sales so I say it's a success and were not couting the overseas money these guys are at bug paydays....BIG SUCCESS
no one counts tax as part of PPV sales.

All in all, great result if that is the true number. I thought this might do 200K sales max. The fight does not give both fighters more 8 figure payday, but it upped the profile for both and their next fight will be for even more massive money
I bet rh guys collecting money count it .
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Mayz wrote:If 300k is a good number with that much promotion, then boxing really is dead in the US!

Not really a huge number, you can get 100k into a stadium...

Again you dont seem to understand the u.s. ppv market. You are just looking for confirmation of your bias even though the facts are stating otherwise
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stunna 2.0 wrote: I bet rh guys collecting money count it .
What are you talking about? No, the fighters and promoters do not figure tax when they are talking about sales. NO ONES DOES

I am pretty sure you are not a CPA. But let's say you are an owner of a retail business. You do not count tax receipts as part of sales, and book them to be revealed in your finanial Statement as part of the P&L.

No public company reports tax collected as part of their "sales" figure.

No one with half a brain counts Tax as part of "sales" or "revenue earned".

Cmon bro. Live in the real world.
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Lol sales taxes count as revenues? You dont work in finance
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Someone on here told me awhile back they counted taxes in the revanue of a fight I'm pretty much just repeating what someone else said
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The Wilder Fury fight did okay PPV revenue. 300K + $74.95, nets around $22 mil and that is with both fighters not well known in the US

AJ and Pot did 1.2m buys, at around 20 pounds, which when converted to US dollars is around $30 mil.

So that $22mil compares decently to the $30mil that AJ did in ppv sales.
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stunna 2.0 wrote:Someone on here told me awhile back they counted taxes in the revanue of a fight I'm pretty much just repeating what someone else said
Whoever told you that had only quarter of a brain
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Danielk015 wrote:The Wilder Fury fight did okay PPV revenue. 300K + $74.95, nets around $22 mil and that is with both fighters not well known in the US

AJ and Pot did 1.2m buys, at around 20 pounds, which when converted to US dollars is around $30 mil.

So that $22mil compares decently to the $30mil that AJ did in ppv sales.
1.2 million buys at 20 pounds is 24 million us dollar so they did practically the same number
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stunna 2.0 wrote:
Danielk015 wrote:The Wilder Fury fight did okay PPV revenue. 300K + $74.95, nets around $22 mil and that is with both fighters not well known in the US

AJ and Pot did 1.2m buys, at around 20 pounds, which when converted to US dollars is around $30 mil.

So that $22mil compares decently to the $30mil that AJ did in ppv sales.
1.2 million buys at 20 pounds is 24 million us dollar so they did practically the same number
give or take 8 million lol

24 million pounds is 30 million usd.

So the North American ppv did enough buys to cover one fighters purse if we are to believe the reported purses each fighter expects lol. Espinoza and Al should be waving little Union Jack flags and praying for the BT buys in the UK to bail them out.
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stunna 2.0 wrote:
Danielk015 wrote:The Wilder Fury fight did okay PPV revenue. 300K + $74.95, nets around $22 mil and that is with both fighters not well known in the US

AJ and Pot did 1.2m buys, at around 20 pounds, which when converted to US dollars is around $30 mil.

So that $22mil compares decently to the $30mil that AJ did in ppv sales.
1.2 million buys at 20 pounds is 24 million us dollar so they did practically the same number
A pound is worth more than a US dollar.

Not sure on what the exchange rate was last month, but at the moment 20 pounds is about $25.45 US, and multiplying that by 1.2 million gets roughly $30,500,000 US. Edit: see above

Though, this fight also had UK PPV to factor in. Not sure how the revenue distribution works with that..
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Tocsin wrote:
A pound is worth more than a US dollar.

Not sure on what the exchange rate was lat month, but at the moment 20 pounds is about $25.45 US, and multiplying that by 1.2 million gets about $30,500,000 US.
Yeah if they get 300k that will net them about 11 million bucks USD...so they will need some pretty big numbers from Britain to pay each fighter over 10 million, cover the undercard and promotional costs, etc. I'm sure the numbers from Ireland and the UK will be good though.

All in all, this promotion will probably equal the revenue that AJ can draw vs Bozo the clown. Let alone AJ vs a guy like Parker who brings a bit of his own revenue.

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