Did Fury Get like 15 Seconds to Recover?
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Did Fury Get like 15 Seconds to Recover?
Has this count been addressed on here at all since the fight? Even in real time it felt like the Ref was determined to give Fury all the time he needed to shake off the KD. I couldn't see the ringside person begin the count as you usually can spot him helping the ref out so it looked slow. Perhaps the shock caught both the ref and the ringside official off guard and delayed the count?
Then when he stood up it felt like a conversation was happening rather than can you continue?
Finally, usually you'll see the ref back up and tell the fighter to take a few steps toward me to gauge his balance etc. Reiss instructs Fury to walk all the way to the corner and back basically. It just seemed extremely odd in the moment.
Then when he stood up it felt like a conversation was happening rather than can you continue?
Finally, usually you'll see the ref back up and tell the fighter to take a few steps toward me to gauge his balance etc. Reiss instructs Fury to walk all the way to the corner and back basically. It just seemed extremely odd in the moment.
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They've started doing that 'walk over there and back' thing a lot lately. I've seen it many other times before this and am assuming it's a new rule or something for refs.
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He got a lot of time to recover. It is irrefutable.
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He got up at 9. Ref assessed him and the fight went on. Normal procedure
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No complaints how Reiss called the fight and the knockdown. He's one of the better refs in the game and he was excellent last Sat imo.
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Re: Did Fury Get like 15 Seconds to Recover?
It really felt like he got a slow count which is weird because for the first four seconds I thought he was out... and then came the Undertaker revival and the ref assessed that he was able to continue and Fury proved it.
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This has been discussed on other Boxing sites I frequent. I've seen somebody say that the time elapsed in real time from when the knockdown occurs to when the action resumes is 22 seconds.
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Well look at the video and the official clock. Hes up at 9
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I was watching on the British feed, not the Showtime, and you can clearly see the person outside the ring start the count and the ref pick it up right away. There was no delay time wise.
The fighters he's beaten aren't even household names in their own household.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq_V5z9gB-o/jeff_lacy_ko wrote:Well look at the video and the official clock. Hes up at 9
Looks like getting up at 9.
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Fury got up at 9 and the referee did a couple of now standard checks to make sure he was fit to continue....end of topic.
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Nah, defo got up in time.
The checks after happen all the time. People just clutching at straws.
The checks after happen all the time. People just clutching at straws.
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Re: Did Fury Get like 15 Seconds to Recover?
The checks have changed over time to include more things. The reason this has been done is for fighter safety. For years all boxers had to do was move forward, it was autopilot for boxers. Its what they trained for and was second nature and instinctual for them when buzzed. Now they are given directions to comply and for the ref to see their movement and see if the fighter comprehends what they are being told to do. In NJ we also make them move diagonally to check them.
The fighters he's beaten aren't even household names in their own household.
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He won the remainder of the round after getting KD. The referee should be commended for not waiving it off. Everyone thought he was KTFO and the rest is history. Just feel for him man...the Ultimate comeback was derailed by bad scoring. I only gave Wilder the rounds he got the KD's.
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Fury got no extra time. Up on his feet at 9, and the ref just took a few seconds to observe and assess, nothing out of the ordinary. Remember that if the ref were to see Fury stumble or look shake during that assessment he might well have stopped it
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Fury got up in time, but like others have said, he got lucky he didn't get waived off. He looked dead when he hit the canvas....
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He looked dead from a distance, but when I saw his eyes he looked alert. I think he was intentionally waiting it out.
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In any other fight no count its waived off wilder hit him a right and when he was falling a left hook fury admitted himself he was out cold until about 5 in refs count but I'm he was able to du sh the fight on his feet
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Exactly.....all credit to Reiss for not being a drama queen and flapping his arms about as soon as Fury hit the deck and briefly appeared out. He gave Fury a chance, picked up the count and we saw Fury get up and pretty much carry on where he left off.ceelowsback wrote:He won the remainder of the round after getting KD. The referee should be commended for not waiving it off. Everyone thought he was KTFO and the rest is history. Just feel for him man...the Ultimate comeback was derailed by bad scoring. I only gave Wilder the rounds he got the KD's.
Reiss is emerging as one of the leading referees in the game. He's a no nonsense official who doesn't play to the cameras and he's calm and measured in his responses. A fucking idiot like Nady would have been flapping like a demented chicken if he'd been in the job last Saturday.
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he got up at 9 by the refs slow count... there are numerous videos that show he was down for well over 10 real secondsjeff_lacy_ko wrote:He got up at 9. Ref assessed him and the fight went on. Normal procedure
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https://www.badlefthook.com/2018/12/5/1 ... last-round
In an interview with SiriusXM Boxing, referee Jack Reiss provides his explanation for not immediately waving off the fight when Deontay Wilder leveled Tyson Fury in the 12th round with a couple of monstrous shots.
“Let me tell you, if [there] was earlier, heavy damage and [Fury] had been hurt — you know, there was a history in the fight that he was really getting knocked around and he fell like that and hit his head — I would’ve waved it off.
“But the fight was so close, the magnitude of the fight — you know, a heavyweight championship fight — I’ve always been taught to count a champion out and I wanted to give him every opportunity. So I took my time — not that I stalled the count like these knuckleheads are saying — just patient and I went down to make sure what I was doing was correct, ‘cause I wanna do what’s best for boxing. I always wanna do what’s best for boxing.
“And listen, look at all the talk. Look at the controversy over who they thought won, the rematch. This thing here, there was such a buzz over this. I think it’s best for boxing. Let’s see it again.”
In an interview with SiriusXM Boxing, referee Jack Reiss provides his explanation for not immediately waving off the fight when Deontay Wilder leveled Tyson Fury in the 12th round with a couple of monstrous shots.
“Let me tell you, if [there] was earlier, heavy damage and [Fury] had been hurt — you know, there was a history in the fight that he was really getting knocked around and he fell like that and hit his head — I would’ve waved it off.
“But the fight was so close, the magnitude of the fight — you know, a heavyweight championship fight — I’ve always been taught to count a champion out and I wanted to give him every opportunity. So I took my time — not that I stalled the count like these knuckleheads are saying — just patient and I went down to make sure what I was doing was correct, ‘cause I wanna do what’s best for boxing. I always wanna do what’s best for boxing.
“And listen, look at all the talk. Look at the controversy over who they thought won, the rematch. This thing here, there was such a buzz over this. I think it’s best for boxing. Let’s see it again.”
The fighters he's beaten aren't even household names in their own household.
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that explanation does not look good for boxing... at allPrimetyme199 wrote:https://www.badlefthook.com/2018/12/5/1 ... last-round
In an interview with SiriusXM Boxing, referee Jack Reiss provides his explanation for not immediately waving off the fight when Deontay Wilder leveled Tyson Fury in the 12th round with a couple of monstrous shots.
“Let me tell you, if [there] was earlier, heavy damage and [Fury] had been hurt — you know, there was a history in the fight that he was really getting knocked around and he fell like that and hit his head — I would’ve waved it off.
“But the fight was so close, the magnitude of the fight — you know, a heavyweight championship fight — I’ve always been taught to count a champion out and I wanted to give him every opportunity. So I took my time — not that I stalled the count like these knuckleheads are saying — just patient and I went down to make sure what I was doing was correct, ‘cause I wanna do what’s best for boxing. I always wanna do what’s best for boxing.
“And listen, look at all the talk. Look at the controversy over who they thought won, the rematch. This thing here, there was such a buzz over this. I think it’s best for boxing. Let’s see it again.”
"He's a fighter, I'm a fighter, if I'm better on that day, I win. That's just the way it goes. Someday, every fighter loses. Sooner or later, somebody comes along and they got your ticket. Too old, just wasn't your day, whatever the reason is. In the end, everybody gets beaten. The most you can hope for is that you stay on top a while. Be the best."
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Re: Did Fury Get like 15 Seconds to Recover?
There is a video on Warren's IG of a stopwatch being used to time the count as it happened. Fury was up inside 10 seconds and that's a fact. The referee then did a couple of checks to ensure he was fit to continue and the fight continued.
The referee should be applauded for his officiating.....unbelievable that some want to criticise the guy for doing his job correctly.
The referee should be applauded for his officiating.....unbelievable that some want to criticise the guy for doing his job correctly.
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ceelowsback wrote:He won the remainder of the round after getting KD. The referee should be commended for not waiving it off. Everyone thought he was KTFO and the rest is history. Just feel for him man...the Ultimate comeback was derailed by bad scoring. I only gave Wilder the rounds he got the KD's.
I guess its a means to attempt to dismiss the fact that Fury won 9 rounds. The "long count" stuff. I agree that the man got hosed. (Fury)
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no ones saying fury didnt win more rounds... just stating the simple fact that if you watch the replay with a timer on it it clearly shows that it is longer than 10 seconds from the time he hits the deck to the time hes on 2 feet. its around 12 seconds... then throw in the extra 10-15 seconds of nonsense by the ref letting him walk it off and get his legs back and you do have a legitimate gripe. there should be no grey area... he has 10 seconds to get up and fight... no "well its a championship fight so i took my time" bs.Bertel1 wrote:ceelowsback wrote:He won the remainder of the round after getting KD. The referee should be commended for not waiving it off. Everyone thought he was KTFO and the rest is history. Just feel for him man...the Ultimate comeback was derailed by bad scoring. I only gave Wilder the rounds he got the KD's.
I guess its a means to attempt to dismiss the fact that Fury won 9 rounds. The "long count" stuff. I agree that the man got hosed. (Fury)
do NBA refs let a post buzzer shot count cuz its by the warriors and theyre the champs? tbh both men should feel robbed. wilder was robbed by the ref and fury was robbed by the judge who gave wilder 115 points
all they can do is fight again and hope that competent people are judging and in the ring with them for a change
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