Thurman Vs Garcia & Fonfara Vs Dawson
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Thurman Vs Garcia & Fonfara Vs Dawson
I've been gone a while so I have no real idea of who's picking who for this very anticipated (and important) welterweight clash Saturday. So what say you?
I have DSG once again digging out a hard fought, controversial SD win against a game Thurman.
I have DSG once again digging out a hard fought, controversial SD win against a game Thurman.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Rooting for danny but, i think thurman hits harder at welter. It should be a competitive fight.
Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
I picked Thurman by decision but would not be shocked to see Danny grit out another one. Looking forward to this one.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Kool Keith by decision. Danny will be affected more than Keith by power shots and his lack of mobility will set him up for power from odd angles and and a can't miss target for the stiff jab to the belly.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
I going to go with Thurman only because he saw what Peterson did to Diaz. He won't start as late.
Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
DSG has a good chin to go along w/ his KO power but I think Kool Keith out hustles and out lasts Garcia in route to a points win.... Should be a good fight from start to finish....
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Thurman by decision... it's not going to be close.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Garcia. No reason just a hunch.
Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
I got DSG by KO.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
The Pony Tail dies...and the lisp gets corrected in less than a week!!!
But seriously: I just think Danny is a flat out better fighter than Thurman. Danny does everything well, and does everything better than Thurman does. Thurman is rangier, and you can say he's a bit more explosive, but his power has been greatly exaggerated.
I think Danny fundamentals Thurman to death, on his way to a UD. But don't be surprised if Thurman gets caught with something big early, and goes down. Danny will use his early aggressiveness against him.
But seriously: I just think Danny is a flat out better fighter than Thurman. Danny does everything well, and does everything better than Thurman does. Thurman is rangier, and you can say he's a bit more explosive, but his power has been greatly exaggerated.
I think Danny fundamentals Thurman to death, on his way to a UD. But don't be surprised if Thurman gets caught with something big early, and goes down. Danny will use his early aggressiveness against him.
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I laughed....Hillsinitialrebirth wrote:The Pony Tail dies...and the lisp gets corrected in less than a week!!!
But seriously: I just think Danny is a flat out better fighter than Thurman. Danny does everything well, and does everything better than Thurman does. Thurman is rangier, and you can say he's a bit more explosive, but his power has been greatly exaggerated.
I think Danny fundamentals Thurman to death, on his way to a UD. But don't be surprised if Thurman gets caught with something big early, and goes down. Danny will use his early aggressiveness against him.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Garcia is a bit more polished, if he uses hs legs and counters not letting Thurman cut off the ring it could be a good night as long as he picks his spots carefully to change up and initiate the action.
I got Garcia by UD but won't be surprised if he baits Keith coming in and clocks him with the left hook.
I got Garcia by UD but won't be surprised if he baits Keith coming in and clocks him with the left hook.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
The voting is closer than I thought it was going to be. Most people thought Garcia couldn't beat most guys in the top 10 a couple of years ago. He looked pretty bad in the first 6 rounds vs the clumsy Guerrero, but dominated the second half of the fight. Thruman imo looked terrible vs Porter. He looked wild and off balance for most of the fight. I can see Garcia adjusting to Thurman and taking over late in the fight, but I think it's also possible Thurman out hustles him in close rounds. If Garcia is struggling with Thurmans atrack early, I can see Garcia head butting and throwing low blows like he did with Matthysse to neutralize his attack. If Thurman is going to win this one, he will have to be tactical and not making it a brawl because Garcia left hook might drop him. I mean Matthysse was putting it on Garcia because the fouls. Thurman needs to attack early and often and overpower garcia on the inside to win. Garcia has struggled with speed, like vs a shot Judah and Herrera. I think it will be a close fight and it will end up being a war. Thurman is the better fighter but will need the right game plan to win. Avoiding that Garcia's left hook is really his only problem. Herrera did it and dominated Garcia. Then again Thurman doesn't throw a jab and isn't very true boxer. He's just a great athlete. I can't wait to see this one.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Garcia is becoming a poor man's floyd mayweather. Granted he is nowhere near as talented but, i see a lot of similarities. Both guys were hated by many throughout their careers. Both had loud mouth fathers who tried to steal the spotlight. Both should have lost but were given gifts by the judges (castillo and herrara). Everyone always rooted for both guys to lose and so far they have come out on top. Garcia has a ways to go to be anywhere near floyds level but, a convincing win over cool keith would be a step in the right direction.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
I got Thurman winning but it'll be a great fight. I'm really excited for this one. Not often we get fights like this these days. Props to both for making it happen. I've always liked Danny but I think Thurman willl be too much for him. He's proven me wrong before though with matthysse,so I won't count him out.
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Floyd did NOT lose to Castillo I've seen that fight 100x and he won 7 rounds IMO. People are just reaching to find a loss for Floyd with that one. Even if you had him losing, he did the right thing and gave him a rematch and whooped that ass. Garcia may have lost to Herrera though and should have fought him againelterrible33 wrote:Garcia is becoming a poor man's floyd mayweather. Granted he is nowhere near as talented but, i see a lot of similarities. Both guys were hated by many throughout their careers. Both had loud mouth fathers who tried to steal the spotlight. Both should have lost but were given gifts by the judges (castillo and herrara). Everyone always rooted for both guys to lose and so far they have come out on top. Garcia has a ways to go to be anywhere near floyds level but, a convincing win over cool keith would be a step in the right direction.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
I'm going with Danny
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Don't Like Thurman, use to hate Danny but Danny has proven me wrong too many times. Danny SD.
Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Lol Castillo dominated Floyd. Anyone who scored that for Floyd is just a dick rider or needs to learn how to score a fight.
Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
i don't think this one is all that close tbh.
i like danny but if you go back and watch his fights, you'll notice he looks spectacular vs no-names like salka but less so against better competition. add in the fact that he's never fought someone at 147 with thurmans resume, power and skillset and i think its a recipe for the first official L on danny's record.
danny's also been the benefactor of favourable matchups and decisions and his best win is against khan @ 140.
thurman on the other hand has taken on slightly better competition but primarily @ 147. he has good power but also much better movement than danny, which imo will be the deciding factor in the fight. i don't believe danny moves well enough on his feet where by he can set up his thunderous left hand.
thurman UD 8-4 or 9-3
i like danny but if you go back and watch his fights, you'll notice he looks spectacular vs no-names like salka but less so against better competition. add in the fact that he's never fought someone at 147 with thurmans resume, power and skillset and i think its a recipe for the first official L on danny's record.
danny's also been the benefactor of favourable matchups and decisions and his best win is against khan @ 140.
thurman on the other hand has taken on slightly better competition but primarily @ 147. he has good power but also much better movement than danny, which imo will be the deciding factor in the fight. i don't believe danny moves well enough on his feet where by he can set up his thunderous left hand.
thurman UD 8-4 or 9-3
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Thurman wins and well.
He has the ability to edge Garcia when it comes to boxing and the power to really make him pay a heavy if Garcia tries to make things happen. Garcia hasn't fought a live opponent in ages and should have 2 losses on his slate from 140. But I'm fairly confident his lucky run is coming to an end.
He has the ability to edge Garcia when it comes to boxing and the power to really make him pay a heavy if Garcia tries to make things happen. Garcia hasn't fought a live opponent in ages and should have 2 losses on his slate from 140. But I'm fairly confident his lucky run is coming to an end.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Not if you score it round by round... but amateurs who don't understand the sport tend to judge the fight as a whole. Castillo won his rounds by wider margins sure but dominating 5 rounds doesn't beat winning 7 rounds... not the way boxing is scored at least.... feel free to point to punch total stats below to further prove my point.Based wrote:Lol Castillo dominated Floyd. Anyone who scored that for Floyd is just a dick rider or needs to learn how to score a fight.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
Thurman wins the fight via fairly close decision over Garcia I think. There's probably demand for a rematch if it's a reasonably entertaining fight
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I've seen the Floyd vs Castillo fight multiple times, and I always have it for Castillo, and I know how to score fights.TopNotch86 wrote:Floyd did NOT lose to Castillo I've seen that fight 100x and he won 7 rounds IMO. People are just reaching to find a loss for Floyd with that one. Even if you had him losing, he did the right thing and gave him a rematch and whooped that ass. Garcia may have lost to Herrera though and should have fought him againelterrible33 wrote:Garcia is becoming a poor man's floyd mayweather. Granted he is nowhere near as talented but, i see a lot of similarities. Both guys were hated by many throughout their careers. Both had loud mouth fathers who tried to steal the spotlight. Both should have lost but were given gifts by the judges (castillo and herrara). Everyone always rooted for both guys to lose and so far they have come out on top. Garcia has a ways to go to be anywhere near floyds level but, a convincing win over cool keith would be a step in the right direction.
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Re: Who wins DSG-Thurman
I had the Floyd-Castillo fight a draw, but wouldn't have been upset in the least if Castillo got the win. It was kind of a weird fight in the way of scoring....