Should Walters be paid in full?

Cagiva9 · Post by **Cagiva9** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:19 pm

These days $300,000 is not exactly a fortune for a championship fight but paying Walters in full for his quit seems wrong. Breach of contract maybe?

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:20 pm

They probably will, but no he doesn't deserve 300K. His purse should be cut in half since he gave a half assed effort.

ObJuan13 · Post by **ObJuan13** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:25 pm

Of course he should be paid in full...

He's a quitter and he lacks heart but you can't renege on a contract.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:31 pm

ObJuan13 wrote:Of course he should be paid in full...

He's a quitter and he lacks heart but you can't renege on a contract.

True. Never mind what I said. ObJuan is right on this one.

marciano1952 · Post by **marciano1952** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:06 pm

he should....but his Next Purse should be only Guaranteed for 100K or less....

kinggrissly · Post by **kinggrissly** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:13 pm

Probably not, but it could be a dangerous precedent if fighters or their corners think they won't get paid if they stop a fight.

elterrible33 · Post by **elterrible33** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:13 pm

I don't think walters or andre ward should be paid. Pathetic showings by both fighters.

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:38 pm

Yes.

He will be punished financially for his next fights.

Cagiva9 · Post by **Cagiva9** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:43 pm

elterrible33 wrote:I don't think walters or andre ward should be paid. Pathetic showings by both fighters.

Ward gave 100%, Walters not so much and the value of the product HBO invested in suffered. Who's gonna want to watch a replay of 1/2 a fight with a lame conclusion? That was Walters making a choice that caused that. In dollars a cents what did Walters choice cost HBO, not to mention damage to their reputation which will affect future HBO boxing earnings.

Bottom line is that Walters didn't do what he was contracted to do, give an honest effort.

Based · Post by **Based** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:45 pm

Some pro Al Haymon guys believe he shouldn't have taken the fight for half a million and should of waited for more or just fought a bum for a million dollars because thats the way it works in boxing (According to fat dan it was 500K for Walters, 300K was just reported to the state athletic commission).

lurkyshaka · Post by **lurkyshaka** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:54 pm

Tommy wrote:Yes.

He will be punished financially for his next fights.

Exactly....its going to be a relatively hard road back for Walters and many people now will be waiting for him to fold again.

TheUltimateFan · Post by **TheUltimateFan** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:58 pm

Cagiva9 wrote:
elterrible33 wrote:I don't think walters or andre ward should be paid. Pathetic showings by both fighters.
Ward gave 100%, Walters not so much and the value of the product HBO invested in suffered. Who's gonna want to watch a replay of 1/2 a fight with a lame conclusion? That was Walters making a choice that caused that. In dollars a cents what did Walters choice cost HBO, not to mention damage to their reputation which will affect future HBO boxing earnings.

Bottom line is that Walters didn't do what he was contracted to do, give an honest effort.

Ditto!

Danielk015 · Post by **Danielk015** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:00 pm

walters can get paid as long as nothing truly shady was going on, but he will have to pay his dues to get paid again

Primetyme199 · Post by **Primetyme199** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:17 am

As others have said he won't get paid good money again.

TopNotch86 · Post by **TopNotch86** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:17 am

ObJuan13 wrote:Of course he should be paid in full...

He's a quitter and he lacks heart but you can't renege on a contract.

if you quit halfway through your workday would you get paid for the full day?

Primetyme199 · Post by **Primetyme199** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:29 am

TopNotch86 wrote:
ObJuan13 wrote:Of course he should be paid in full...

He's a quitter and he lacks heart but you can't renege on a contract.
if you quit halfway through your workday would you get paid for the full day?

So if he got knocked out in the 9th round he shouldn't get paid either because he was scheduled for 12?

TopNotch86 · Post by **TopNotch86** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:07 am

Primetyme199 wrote:
TopNotch86 wrote:
ObJuan13 wrote:Of course he should be paid in full...

He's a quitter and he lacks heart but you can't renege on a contract.
if you quit halfway through your workday would you get paid for the full day?

So if he got knocked out in the 9th round he shouldn't get paid either because he was scheduled for 12?

being unable to continue vs being unwilling to are two totally different things... for the record i think he should be paid but i can understand the frustration of people feeling ripped off

Primetyme199 · Post by **Primetyme199** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:13 am

TopNotch86 wrote:

So if he got knocked out in the 9th round he shouldn't get paid either because he was scheduled for 12?

being unable to continue vs being unwilling to are two totally different things... for the record i think he should be paid but i can understand the frustration of people feeling ripped off[/quote]

Comparing a boxing fight to a regular job are 2 different things too.

I understand the frustration but we aren't the ones getting punched and beat up. It's very easy to sit behind a tv screen and say what someone else should do when they aren't in the situation.

J.J.Dillon · Post by **J.J.Dillon** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:14 am

Yeah, pay him.

mekane · Post by **mekane** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:28 am

Fight was over. I don't think Walters did anything wrong. Why do you all want to see him punished? Sick bastards, all of you.

Cagiva9 · Post by **Cagiva9** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:01 pm

mekane wrote:Fight was over. I don't think Walters did anything wrong. Why do you all want to see him punished? Sick bastards, all of you.

gomez1012 · Post by **gomez1012** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:39 pm

NoPropaganda 253 · Post by **NoPropaganda 253** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:08 pm

What would you have done to Walters, George? Stupid fucking thread. Of course he gets paid.

Cagiva9 · Post by **Cagiva9** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:15 pm

NoPropaganda 253 wrote:What would you have done to Walters, George? Stupid fucking thread. Of course he gets paid.

Is everything going to be personal now? Seriously man, get a grip.

NoPropaganda 253 · Post by **NoPropaganda 253** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:31 pm

Cagiva9 wrote:
NoPropaganda 253 wrote:What would you have done to Walters, George? Stupid fucking thread. Of course he gets paid.
Is everything going to be personal now? Seriously man, get a grip.

You ruined my record, man!!!

Stop your crying, slap your own face, get yourself together and don't throw the Poor Georgie Towel in just yet. What would you have done to Walters, George? You actually had the gall to type "breach of contract" and I'd actually like to hear the reasoning behind that line of thought. Fire away, George

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