GGG & Canelo have agreed to fight...

[gomez1012]

Sad times for the sport of boxing.

TV networks have turned into Don King/Al Haymon milking these cash cows for tv ratings in mismatches...

[gilgamesh]

I don't care if GGG vs Canelo happens now or not. I just hope Canelo gets knocked out by anybody he faces. Fuck him.

[tainos]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on. I wish their was a tour like the Super six again at 168. Wouldnt mind seeing GGG move up and fight DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Smith and throw Andre in their for kicks. Sure beats waiting around for a fight that will never happen.

[Based]

OP acts like GGG can force Canelo into the ring. Canelo and GBP wanted 3 interim fights before they fought GGG in the first place before giving him his mandatory title shot, so this should not be a surprise that they reached this deal, now they just had to fork over the title to GGG instead of making him wait for it. They want to get GGG at 36 and are hoping he slows down a bit before that. Canelo has time on his side. I think GGG fight Eubank, Sanders and then Canelo.'


In all of this Danny Jacobs ends up doing shit. WTF is up with him and his career? He should be involved in these big fights too.

[gomez1012]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on.

Ive been saying this for awhile. They keep going along with Oscar, the WBC, or even HBO's plans.

Loeffler could of made a big fight by now.

Chavez Jr is calling him out, Lara is too, DBE's MW Khurtzide is out there, Andy Lee, Eubank ready, Saunders, Ramirez, etc, etc

Lets go already.

[tainos]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on.

Ive been saying this for awhile. They keep going along with Oscar, the WBC, or even HBO's plans.

Loeffler could of made a big fight by now.

Chavez Jr is calling him out, Lara is too, DBE's MW Khurtzide is out there, Andy Lee, Eubank ready, Saunders, Ramirez, etc, etc

Lets go already.

Something is just too fishy about this whole situation from all the step asides to the trip to Mexico with Sulaiman and Chavez to Abel Sanchez. Connect the dots.

[kinggrissly]

It'll never happen but if Canelo and Eubank should ever meet at 160, you have a bet

It wouldn't be fair to take your money because all you're looking at is that one guy fights 5 pounds heavier. You'd probably take Canelo at 159.

Quack! Quack!!

I'd feel bad about it, but if you insist. Why do you think Eubank is better?

[gilgamesh]

OP acts like GGG can force Canelo into the ring. Canelo and GBP wanted 3 interim fights before they fought GGG in the first place before giving him his mandatory title shot, so this should not be a surprise that they reached this deal, now they just had to fork over the title to GGG instead of making him wait for it. They want to get GGG at 36 and are hoping he slows down a bit before that. Canelo has time on his side. I think GGG fight Eubank, Sanders and then Canelo.'


In all of this Danny Jacobs ends up doing shit. WTF is up with him and his career? He should be involved in these big fights too.

What is up with Danny Jacobs is simple to answer. He's a Haymon fighter. Haymon keeps his guys out of real fights, and his guys apparently wouldn't have it any other way.

[Cagiva9]

It wouldn't be fair to take your money because all you're looking at is that one guy fights 5 pounds heavier. You'd probably take Canelo at 159.

Quack! Quack!!

I'd feel bad about it, but if you insist. Why do you think Eubank is better?

I don't think he's better but I think it's about even. Eubank would have a considerable height/reach advantage, probably more power too.

[NoPropaganda 253]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on. I wish their was a tour like the Super six again at 168. Wouldnt mind seeing GGG move up and fight DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Smith and throw Andre in their for kicks. Sure beats waiting around for a fight that will never happen.

With you Tainos. Middleweight record for defenses is cool and all, but if were talking history and considering the talent that Gennady has been able to face in the ring, it leaves something to be desired. I'd like to see K2 secure a talent like Triple some fights the fans will remember years from now. That's just me. Always like to see the fighters I choose to root for in meaningful fights.

[tainos]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on. I wish their was a tour like the Super six again at 168. Wouldnt mind seeing GGG move up and fight DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Smith and throw Andre in their for kicks. Sure beats waiting around for a fight that will never happen.

With you Tainos. Middleweight record for defenses is cool and all, but if were talking history and considering the talent that Gennady has been able to face in the ring, it leaves something to be desired. I'd like to see K2 secure a talent like Triple some fights the fans will remember years from now. That's just me. Always like to see the fighters I choose to root for in meaningful fights.

Here Here my brother. Wade, Lemieux, Monroe, murray and Rubio last 5 fights. Now we have to wait another year supposedly for the fight. 3 years wasted on step asides. Not his fault in not fighting the best at 160 but plenty of challenges at 168 that WANT to fight him. Like i said in an earlier thread something is up with the WBC and his people playing him.

[gomez1012]

Here Here my brother. Wade, Lemieux, Monroe, murray and Rubio last 5 fights. Now we have to wait another year supposedly for the fight. 3 years wasted on step asides. Not his fault in not fighting the best at 160 but plenty of challenges at 168 that WANT to fight him. Like i said in an earlier thread something is up with the WBC and his people playing him.

but then you have fans saying stuff like this

In the meantime, bring on Eubank and cement your immortality. Best middleweight since Hagler at least...maybe ever.

[gotiye]

OP acts like GGG can force Canelo into the ring. Canelo and GBP wanted 3 interim fights before they fought GGG in the first place before giving him his mandatory title shot, so this should not be a surprise that they reached this deal, now they just had to fork over the title to GGG instead of making him wait for it. They want to get GGG at 36 and are hoping he slows down a bit before that. Canelo has time on his side. I think GGG fight Eubank, Sanders and then Canelo.'


In all of this Danny Jacobs ends up doing shit. WTF is up with him and his career? He should be involved in these big fights too.

Jacobs fought Peter quillen and was trying to negotiate a potential matchup with Saunders after that. Don't know if those talks fell through or were pushed back for a later date.....................

[RimmyJice]

Danny Jacobs is the mandatory challenger to GGG. Why isn't he pursuing that?

[gotiye]

Danny Jacobs is the mandatory challenger to GGG. Why isn't he pursuing that?

HBO doesn't have the budget for that fight and HBO won't allow their contracted fighters to fight out of their network. HBO has crippled some of the match making in certain weight classes with the moves they made...................
The fighters have nothing to do with it...................

[gomez1012]

Per ESPN Deportes

Canelo's plan is Liam Smith and Billy Joe Saunders, then GGG next fall...

http://www.espn.com.mx/boxeo/nota/_/id/ ... y-saunders

[tainos]

Per ESPN Deportes

Canelo's plan is Liam Smith and Billy Joe Saunders, then GGG next fall...

http://www.espn.com.mx/boxeo/nota/_/id/ ... y-saunders

GGG should tell him he dont want it now and go to 168.

[RimmyJice]

Danny Jacobs is the mandatory challenger to GGG. Why isn't he pursuing that?

HBO doesn't have the budget for that fight and HBO won't allow their contracted fighters to fight out of their network. HBO has crippled some of the match making in certain weight classes with the moves they made...................
The fighters have nothing to do with it...................

If Haymon wins the purse bid, GGG has to fight him on Haymon's terms or drop the belt.
Why doesn't Haymon or Jacobs pursue this?

[gomez1012]

Per ESPN Deportes

Canelo's plan is Liam Smith and Billy Joe Saunders, then GGG next fall...

http://www.espn.com.mx/boxeo/nota/_/id/ ... y-saunders

GGG should tell him he dont want it now and go to 168.

Chavez Jr is there for a big time entry level fight to Super Middleweight...

[USMILMAN]

Per ESPN Deportes

Canelo's plan is Liam Smith and Billy Joe Saunders, then GGG next fall...

http://www.espn.com.mx/boxeo/nota/_/id/ ... y-saunders

GGG should tell him he dont want it now and go to 168.

Chavez Jr is there for a big time entry level fight to Super Middleweight...

When is the last time he made 168?

[gotiye]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on. I wish their was a tour like the Super six again at 168. Wouldnt mind seeing GGG move up and fight DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Smith and throw Andre in their for kicks. Sure beats waiting around for a fight that will never happen.

With you Tainos. Middleweight record for defenses is cool and all, but if were talking history and considering the talent that Gennady has been able to face in the ring, it leaves something to be desired. I'd like to see K2 secure a talent like Triple some fights the fans will remember years from now. That's just me. Always like to see the fighters I choose to root for in meaningful fights.

Loeffler is at fault as well. He's been keeping ggg on a safer path at 160 to try to make him a name and to get a big payday. He doesn't want ggg to look bad that's why they're limiting the amount of risk he's taking. Loeffler is making the mistake of expecting everyone to come to them on their terms but it doesn't work like that. In order to get a big name, you have to give something up or everything up in negotiations......you can't dictate terms. The problem is they think they deserve a 50/50 split with a guy like Canelo when Canelo at this point in time is the main reason a ppv will draw casual fans. The only way ggg starts to draw more than a hardcore fanbase is to take more fights where it's not a guaranteed win on paper and it looks to be competitive both ways...................

[tainos]

GGG is being played for a fool. Move the fuck on. I wish their was a tour like the Super six again at 168. Wouldnt mind seeing GGG move up and fight DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Smith and throw Andre in their for kicks. Sure beats waiting around for a fight that will never happen.

With you Tainos. Middleweight record for defenses is cool and all, but if were talking history and considering the talent that Gennady has been able to face in the ring, it leaves something to be desired. I'd like to see K2 secure a talent like Triple some fights the fans will remember years from now. That's just me. Always like to see the fighters I choose to root for in meaningful fights.

Loeffler is at fault as well. He's been keeping ggg on a safer path at 160 to try to make him a name and to get a big payday. He doesn't want ggg to look bad that's why they're limiting the amount of risk he's taking. Loeffler is making the mistake of expecting everyone to come to them on their terms but it doesn't work like that. In order to get a big name, you have to give something up or everything up in negotiations......you can't dictate terms. The problem is they think they deserve a 50/50 split with a guy like Canelo when Canelo at this point in time is the main reason a ppv will draw casual fans. The only way ggg starts to draw more than a hardcore fanbase is to take more fights where it's not a guaranteed win on paper and it looks to be competitive both ways...................

Couldnt have said it better myself. Truth!

[Cagiva9]

All these calls for Golovkin to move up to 168, like 168 is so much better...it isn't. After a couple of fights the very same complaints from the very same complainers, guaranteed.

[gotiye]

Danny Jacobs is the mandatory challenger to GGG. Why isn't he pursuing that?

HBO doesn't have the budget for that fight and HBO won't allow their contracted fighters to fight out of their network. HBO has crippled some of the match making in certain weight classes with the moves they made...................
The fighters have nothing to do with it...................

If Haymon wins the purse bid, GGG has to fight him on Haymon's terms or drop the belt.
Why doesn't Haymon or Jacobs pursue this?

Because ggg is signed to HBO. I wish is was as simple as you make it sound, I truly wish it worked that way because I want these fights as well but there's so much red tape with contract HBO gave certain fighters. the sanctioning body will have to force their hand in order for the fight to take place...................

[tainos]

All these calls for Golovkin to move up to 168, like 168 is so much better...it isn't. After a couple of fights the very same complaints from the very same complainers, guaranteed.

Could be but theirs nobody running scared at 168 I believe. Ramirez and deGale would fight him right now.