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Re: 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez bids for fourth belt vs. Cuadras

Post by J.J.Dillon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:07 am

Cool deal! My kind of party!

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Re: 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez bids for fourth belt vs. Cuadras

Post by gomez1012 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:15 am

J.J.Dillon wrote:Cool deal! My kind of party!
Viva Nicaragua!!!!!

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Re: 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez bids for fourth belt vs. Cuadras

Post by Based » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:30 am

It's going to be a pretty good fight. Hopefully if he wins he fights Inoue or Gallito after, but I really like this fight for him.

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Re: 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez bids for fourth belt vs. Cuadras

Post by chef97 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:11 pm

J.J.Dillon wrote:Cool deal! My kind of party!

Yes sir! :)
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Re: 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez bids for fourth belt vs. Cuadras

Post by 5_burowz » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:36 pm

I may just have to treat myself to an early b-day present and go out there to see this.

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HBO 9/10 Cuadras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass II

Post by gomez1012 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:47 pm

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BREAKING NEWS!!! #KamegaiSotoKarass2 LIVE On @HBO, Sept. 10, Co-Main to #GonzalezCuadras http://conta.cc/29XH6Tr
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Sweet double header, might be worth the drive down to So Cal

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Re: HBO 9/10 Caudras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass

Post by chef97 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:03 pm

How can you not be a fan of or say wow to Chocolatito? Talk about a champ moving up and challenging himself again and again! Carlos Caudras has real power at super flyweight and will come to take out the smaller Roman Gonzalez... This could be a FOTY contender and must see TV for fight fans.....

WAR CHOCOLATITO!!!!!!
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Re: HBO 9/10 Caudras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass

Post by gilgamesh » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:22 pm

LOVE THIS FIGHT!

Second half of the year is already a massive improvement on the first half.
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Re: HBO 9/10 Caudras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass

Post by CageyVeteran » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:20 pm

With a name like Chocolatito you'd expect a smooth tactician.

He's more like a chocolate laxative... Cuz he runs right through you.

Can't wait for this fight.

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Re: HBO 9/10 Caudras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass

Post by WillieB59 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:31 pm

Cuadras-Gonzalez! Wow! Great match!

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Re: HBO 9/10 Cuadras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass

Post by elterrible33 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:31 pm

Cuadras is a live dog.

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Re: HBO 9/10 Cuadras vs Chocolatito & Kamegai vs Soto Karass

Post by 5_burowz » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:44 pm

Roman is without a doubt one of the best of his generation.

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Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by chef97 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:40 pm

At Ingelwood, Calif. (HBO) and live in Astor's Living Room on 9-10-16

Carlos Cuadras 35-0-1 (27 KO) vs. Roman Gonzalez 45-0 (38 KO) , 12 rounds, for Cuadras' WBC junior bantamweight title

Chocolatito challenges himself again by trying for a world title in a 3rd different weight class.... Break it down fellas, who wins and why?
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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by the13r » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:44 pm

Someone already asked me to break it down through PMs so here it is:

It's a very good matchup. Cuadras won't get any better and he can bring a similar challenge to what Estrada gave Roman.

But if we look at their styles a little closer, i think Roman is a very safe pick. I have been one of Cuadras biggest fans. Been following his career since it started thanks to the Cadana Tres Mx Boxing Serie.

Cuadras always have overpowered his opponent earlier in his career. He was a combo stalker grinder, leaving very little time windows for his opponents to retaliate. His offensive aggressivity has been his defense...

One thing emerged from his style and performances, he is a relentless body puncher. He can grind the body in hook combos... he can liver hunt with big hooks from the boundary of the pocket, in the middle of a trading sequence... he can also target it from distance with straights.

His biggest weaknesses... He doesn't use his jab enough... it's a decent jab and it could help his lack of reach in many matchups vs lengthier opponents.

Another pretty big weakness that many very effective stalker have is they get overconfident and didn't have to work on D much. That has for effect to make them VERY timeable. ANd another weakness they develop is their hands get low while they stalk. It's the case for Cuadras who drops his right and is ALL open for Roman's DEADLY perfect natural left hook.

When we watch how both fighters/style will collide. The first thing that will be apparent is how much more compact Roman is. Both like to work with hooks... Roman's hook is PERFECT...in all it's aspects. Cuadras' hook are often wide... often when they are thrown in grinding combos. Cuadras often even clubs hooks.

In the end Roman is much more compact and will have lots of flaws to exploit on a very aggressive fighter in Cuadras. Roman shouldn't have to look for him. Cuadras can overcommit on grinding hook combos and Roman will have all kind of opportunities to counter with pop.

If Roman fights Cuadras' fight on the inside, could end up being a foty contender like vs Estrada.

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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by chef97 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:03 pm

Great breakdown Astor, and I agree it could be a FOTY candidate.... Both guys always come into a fight in great shape, go to the body hard and power punch in combination.... Roman deserves props for stepping up against a bigger guy that's an established undefeated champ.....
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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by KSTAT124 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:34 am

chef97 wrote:At Ingelwood, Calif. (HBO) and live in Astor's Living Room on 9-10-16

Carlos Cuadras 35-0-1 (27 KO) vs. Roman Gonzalez 45-0 (38 KO) , 12 rounds, for Cuadras' WBC junior bantamweight title

Chocolatito challenges himself again by trying for a world title in a 3rd different weight class.... Break it down fellas, who wins and why?
Gonzalez is going for a world title in a FOURTH different weight class. He's reigned at 105 (WBA World minimumweight title) and 108 (WBA World light flyweight title; WBA World light flyweight Super championship) and currently reigns at 112 (lineal, WBC, and Ring Magazine World flyweight titles).

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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by 5_burowz » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:12 am

Thanks for the breakdown, Astor.

Looking forward to seeing Roman and GGG this weekend--we could use it all things considered. Should give Rasta a 10 count on the Chat on Sat. night.

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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by chef97 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:38 am

KSTAT124 wrote:
chef97 wrote:At Ingelwood, Calif. (HBO) and live in Astor's Living Room on 9-10-16

Carlos Cuadras 35-0-1 (27 KO) vs. Roman Gonzalez 45-0 (38 KO) , 12 rounds, for Cuadras' WBC junior bantamweight title

Chocolatito challenges himself again by trying for a world title in a 3rd different weight class.... Break it down fellas, who wins and why?
Gonzalez is going for a world title in a FOURTH different weight class. He's reigned at 105 (WBA World minimumweight title) and 108 (WBA World light flyweight title; WBA World light flyweight Super championship) and currently reigns at 112 (lineal, WBC, and Ring Magazine World flyweight titles).
Awesome! I stand corrected....
Thanks KSTAT!
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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by gomez1012 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:46 pm

I dont know anybody that can keep up with Roman.

Cuadras is going to go to war with him, but I like Chocolatito to outlast him and pour it on in his usual fashion

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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by DBO » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:51 pm

I expect a pretty comprehensive win for Gonzalez. I think people will be shocked.

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Re: Carlos Cuadras vs. Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez

Post by chef97 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:56 pm

DBO wrote:I expect a pretty comprehensive win for Gonzalez. I think people will be shocked.
You'd be able to count me as among the shocked if Roman runs thru Carlos Cuardas as easily as some here think.....
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Re: Chocolatito" González Vs Carlos Cuadras Saturday

Post by the13r » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:32 am

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Saturday 10 September 2016
Forum, Inglewood, California, USA
commission: California State Athletic Commission
promoter: Tom Loeffler (K2 Promotions), Akihiko Honda (Teiken Promotions)

Carlos Cuadras 35 0 1
vs
Roman Gonzalez 45 0 0
Super Flyweight
WBC World super flyweight title

Jesus Soto Karass 28 10 4
vs
Yoshihiro Kamegai 26 3 2
Super Welterweight

Seniesa Estrada 7 0 0
vs
Nancy Franco 15 9 2
Flyweight

Ryan Martin 15 0 0
vs
Fermin De los Santos 29 15 2
Lightweight
vacant WBC Continental Americas lightweight title

Carlos Licona 7 0 0
vs
Gilberto Mendoza 5 5 2
Lightweight

Chazz Moleta debut
vs
Brahmabigi Montgomery 1 1 1 4
Lightweight





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Re: Chocolatito" González Vs Carlos Cuadras Saturday

Post by the13r » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:33 am

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Re: Chocolatito" González Vs Carlos Cuadras Saturday

Post by 5_burowz » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:13 pm

After watching Cuadras on film and in preparation and hearing him talk, he's a little bit clownish. I hate to say that, but, he's kind of goofy and I don't see how he wins this fight.

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Re: Chocolatito" González Vs Carlos Cuadras Saturday

Post by marciano1952 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:43 am

Gonzalez will make it look easy imo
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