Who was the greatest?

elterrible33 · Post by **elterrible33** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:58 am

Who do you consider to be the GOAT?

USMILMAN · Post by **USMILMAN** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:46 am

Charles

TopNotch86 · Post by **TopNotch86** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:45 am

tough to guage different eras against each other. SRR obviously has the most impressive resume IMO so he gets the nod if i have to pick someone. so many great great fighters throughout history though

Trafficante28 · Post by **Trafficante28** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:55 am

Muhammad Ali was way before my time but I watched a documentary on him the other night that had all the great heavyweights being interviewed and highlights. I have to say that it just have been so awesome to be a boxing fan in the 1970s because here were so many awesome fighters and he fought them all.

It was great to hear all the stories from all the fighters about Ali.

marciano1952 · Post by **marciano1952** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:01 am

Iv seen Cases made for Greb

RASTA666 · Post by **RASTA666** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:14 am

I think the term the "Greatest" is fitting for Ali but imo it has as much if not more to do with what he did outside the ring as in it.

For me I'm on the side of Springs Toledo and was long before his "GODS OF WAR" came out.

Its Harry Greb for me.

KiNg_DaDdY_2o9 · Post by **KiNg_DaDdY_2o9** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:20 am

Ali was the self-proclaimed GOAT. That title was never actually given to him by his contemporaries.

SRR is universally recognized as the GOAT by all. Ali himself said SRR was the GOAT.

The greatest fighter in my lifetime is SRL.

BigPhank211 · Post by **BigPhank211** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:25 am

marciano1952 wrote:Iv seen Cases made for Greb

Link?

RASTA666 · Post by **RASTA666** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:28 am

BigPhank211 wrote:
marciano1952 wrote:Iv seen Cases made for Greb
Link?

I've made the case on here, espn and other forums more times then I care to remember.

marciano1952 · Post by **marciano1952** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:30 am

BigPhank211 wrote:
marciano1952 wrote:Iv seen Cases made for Greb
Link?

Just Search Rasta's Post....
but for a start

Greb’s record is virtually unbelievable. How many fighters can claim to have a record like that of Harry Greb? He defeated 18 men who held, had held, or would hold world championships, and this at a time when there were only 8 divisions in boxing and one champion in each division. The 5 middleweight champions that Greb defeated were Mike O’Dowd, George Chip, Al McCoy, Mickey Walker, Tiger Flowers and Johnny Wilson from whom he won the title. He also defeated 4 middleweight title claimants Eddie McGoorty, Frank Mantell, Jeff Smith and Bryan Downey. Greb defeated 7 light heavyweight world champions, Mike McTigue, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Tommy Loughran, Jimmy Slattery and Maxie Rosenbloom and one future world heavyweight champion, Gene Tunney whom he fought five times.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/greb.html

RimmyJice · Post by **RimmyJice** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:15 am

BigPhank211 wrote:
marciano1952 wrote:Iv seen Cases made for Greb
Link?

BigPhank211 · Post by **BigPhank211** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:36 am

marciano1952 wrote:
BigPhank211 wrote:
marciano1952 wrote:Iv seen Cases made for Greb
Link?
Just Search Rasta's Post....
but for a start
Greb’s record is virtually unbelievable. How many fighters can claim to have a record like that of Harry Greb? He defeated 18 men who held, had held, or would hold world championships, and this at a time when there were only 8 divisions in boxing and one champion in each division. The 5 middleweight champions that Greb defeated were Mike O’Dowd, George Chip, Al McCoy, Mickey Walker, Tiger Flowers and Johnny Wilson from whom he won the title. He also defeated 4 middleweight title claimants Eddie McGoorty, Frank Mantell, Jeff Smith and Bryan Downey. Greb defeated 7 light heavyweight world champions, Mike McTigue, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Tommy Loughran, Jimmy Slattery and Maxie Rosenbloom and one future world heavyweight champion, Gene Tunney whom he fought five times.
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/greb.html

Impressive indeed. Thanks.

RASTA666 · Post by **RASTA666** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:41 am

BigPhank211 wrote: Impressive indeed. Thanks.

Enjoy. Scroll to the bottom for the essay on Greb but the entire series is a great read.

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... ngs+toledo

BigPhank211 · Post by **BigPhank211** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:18 am

RASTA666 wrote:
BigPhank211 wrote: Impressive indeed. Thanks.
Enjoy. Scroll to the bottom for the essay on Greb but the entire series is a great read.

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... ngs+toledo

Good stuff! That might be my next book purchase.

5_burowz · Post by **5_burowz** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:32 pm

I don't really think about it. I think Joe Louis and Ali were probably the best HW's of all time and would likely beat all of the others prime-for-prime.

RASTA666 · Post by **RASTA666** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:07 pm

There really is no right or wrong answer. The case could be made for Charles, Langford, Armstrong, Gans, Pep, Leonard B or even Ray all things considered. If not for Ali, Duran would have been king of the world for a decade. What about Jofre?

NoPropaganda 253 · Post by **NoPropaganda 253** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:30 pm

KiNg_DaDdY_2o9 wrote:Ali was the self-proclaimed GOAT. That title was never actually given to him by his contemporaries.

SRR is universally recognized as the GOAT by all. Ali himself said SRR was the GOAT.

The greatest fighter in my lifetime is SRL.

Will always call Ali the GOAT but cannot disagree with the man. SRR was the greatest that ever laced em up and my take makes no sense.

TopNotch86 · Post by **TopNotch86** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:39 pm

cant forget TBE Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather!

Burley · Post by **Burley** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:47 pm

chef97 · Post by **chef97** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:19 pm

TopNotch86 wrote:cant forget TBE Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather!

MOD please delete the post above.....

WillieB59 · Post by **WillieB59** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:33 pm

I voted for Robinson. As NoPropaganda wrote, even Ali said Sugar Ray was the greatest but he added he was the greatest heavyweight!

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:30 pm

Sugar Ray Robinson reminds me of a Joe Louis/Muhammad Ali hybrid when I see him fight. The best qualities of both fighters are in his style I believe. Gotta go with the Sugar Man.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:32 pm

Though to me Sam Langford could just as easily be called the Greatest Fighter of all Time and I wouldn't argue with you. Langford's accomplishments will never be equaled. He beat ATG fighters from Lightweight all the way to Heavyweight.

soonermark890 · Post by **soonermark890** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:48 pm

chef97 wrote:
TopNotch86 wrote:cant forget TBE Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather!
MOD please delete the post above.....

Nah just delete the poster instead.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:57 pm

The poll, with Robinson, leading by a good number of votes is reminiscent of the "TTR'S All-Time Top 20 plus" voting conducted in 2009 and 2010.

The results:

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=68713

Here's the thread in which the voting was conducted:

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=50866

I voted for Robinson then and voted for him again tonight.

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