TTR's All-Time Divisional Rankings

the13r · Post by **the13r** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:12 pm

with 3 of my favs in this division, glad i took a little time to watch some footage last night. what a blast Olivares/zarate/jofre were to watch... simply WOW

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:06 pm

TTR's All -Time Top 20 Bantamweights list has been compiled and posted.

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=98521

Five TTR members participated in the voting.

Eder Jofre finished at #1 unanimously. Panama Al Brown was #2 on two lists; Carlos Zarate, Fighting Harada, and Kid Williams were #2 on the others. Brown finished #2, Zarate #5, Harada #7, and Williams #8.

Next up is TTR's All-Time Top 10 Super Flyweights/Junior Bantamweights. Please PM me your lists. I'll compile and post the results in two weeks. After that, it will be TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweights. Lists for that are due in six weeks.

the13r · Post by **the13r** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:37 pm

Jofre had to be a lock at #1

After that it was hard... Zarate had such a run at bantamweight... one of the hardest puncher to have entered the ring all-time

Panama Brown looked like a very flamboyant and fun fighter to watch but his lenghty physiqueand whipping motion made his shots a little wide... something imo fighters like zarate or Olivares with his jab and inside work and pop would've capitalized on.

The footage available on Dixon i assume don't do him any justice

VERY VERY fun division to look at

WillieB59 · Post by **WillieB59** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:23 am

KSTAT124 wrote:TTR's All -Time Top 20 Bantamweights list has been compiled and posted.

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=98521

Five TTR members participated in the voting.

Eder Jofre finished at #1 unanimously. Panama Al Brown was #2 on two lists; Carlos Zarate, Fighting Harada, and Kid Williams were #2 on the others. Brown finished #2, Zarate #5, Harada #7, and Williams #8.

Next up is TTR's All-Time Top 10 Super Flyweights/Junior Bantamweights. Please PM me your lists. I'll compile and post the results in two weeks. After that, it will be TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweights. Lists for that are due in six weeks.

Looks good. I'm glad to see Veeraphol Sahaprom and Nonito Donaire got some votes. I would have liked to have included them but they just "missed the cut". There were a bunch of guys, most of whom I see in #21 to #33, who I considered. A few didn't make it all- Rodolfo Casanova and Alphonse Halimi come to mind- but that was to be expected.

I'm already starting to mull over who will be my top ten all-time at 115.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Fri May 08, 2015 8:42 am

One more TTR member participated in the All-Time Bantamweights balloting (I received his list after I had initially compiled ours) and our list was adjusted to include his.

As a result our All-Time Top 20 is as follows:

1. Eder Jofre
2. Ruben Olivares
3. Panama Al Brown
4. Fighting Harada
5. Pete (Kid) Herman
6. Manuel Ortiz
7. Carlos Zarate
8. Kid Williams
9. (tie) Jeff Chandler
9. (tie) Joe Lynch
11. Rafael Marquez
12. Terry McGovern
13. George Dixon
14. Lupe Pintor
15. Memphis Pal Moore
16. Charles (Bud) Taylor
17. Sixto Escobar
18. Orlando Canizales
19. Johnny Coulon
20. Jimmy Barry

Six TTR members participated and 38 fighters received points.

You can check out the entire list at:
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=98521

Just a reminder: our All-Time Top 10 Super flyweights/Junior bantamweights list will be compiled this coming Wednesday evening.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Thu May 14, 2015 1:08 am

TTR's All-Time Top Ten Super Flyweights/Junior Bantamweights list has been compiled and posted.

Only two TTR members, including myself, participated....I guess there's a silver lining to that, it made it very easy to compile.

Khaosai Galaxy finished #1, Gilberto Roman finished #2, and Johnny Tapia and Jiro Watanabe finished tied for #3.

You can check out the entire list (11 fighters) at:

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=98521

TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweights list will be compiled in FOUR weeks. Maybe we can have six members participate like we did with the bantamweights. More would be even better but six would be very nice!

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Mon May 25, 2015 12:56 am

TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweights list will be compiled on May 27. Maybe we can have six members participate like we did with the bantamweights. More would be even better but six would be very nice!

the13r · Post by **the13r** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:04 am

OK Thanks for the heads up

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:09 pm

I'll get in on this sort of thing in the future, I don't know enough about the Flyweight division to make a Top 20 list of the best fighters of all time in that weight class.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:02 pm

KSTAT124 wrote:TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweights list will be compiled on May 27. Maybe we can have six members participate like we did with the bantamweights. More would be even better but six would be very nice!

The above date is incorrect. I said four weeks but posted a date giving us only two weeks to get our flyweight lists done. I'll actually be compiling TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweight list on June 10.

So far, I only have my list. I know two others are being worked on. If anyone else wants to participate, you still have eight days to go.

the13r · Post by **the13r** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:31 pm

i'm doing this tonight, some great names to explore

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:07 pm

TTR's All-Time Top 20 Flyweights list has been compiled and posted:

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=98521

Three TTR members participated and all three of us voted for Jimmy Wilde and Pancho Villa as #1 and #2.

Next, it's TTR's top 15 for the junior flyweights/light flyweights. If you want to participate, just PM your list to me. I'll compile and post TTR's list for the 108-pound division in TWO weeks (Wednesday, June 24).

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:41 am

Just a reminder- all-time top 15 108-pounders lists due by this evening.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:08 am

The TTR's All-Time Top 15 Light Flyweights/Junior Flyweights is still "in progress.". I only had one list (mine) until early this morning. I'll compile the totals from the now two I have and post the results tonight.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:37 pm

TTR's All-Time Top 15 Light Flyweights/Junior Flyweights have been posted. Twenty fighters received points with ten being included on both lists used to compile the all-time rankings.

The first four are Hall of Famers as are #6 and #13 (the odds-on favorite to finish #1 when the all-time top ten minimumweights/mini-flyweights/strawweights list is compiled and posted in TWO weeks).

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:55 pm

Just a reminder- TTR's All-Time Top Ten Strawweights/Minimumweights/Mini-Flyweights list will be compiled and posted WEDNESDAY night.

My list is ready and I've been promised one other. Somebody surprise me. I'd like to see at least three opinions represented.

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:23 pm

KSTAT124 wrote:Just a reminder- TTR's All-Time Top Ten Strawweights/Minimumweights/Mini-Flyweights list will be compiled and posted WEDNESDAY night.

My list is ready and I've been promised one other. Somebody surprise me. I'd like to see at least three opinions represented.

Second list received. Will there be a third?

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:06 pm

105- All-Time Top Ten. Done. Compiled. Posted. Two participants.

http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 13&t=98521

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:50 pm

TTR's All-Time #1s: (based on balloting conducted from 2013 to 2015):

Heavyweight- Muhammad Ali

Cruiserweight- Evander Holyfield

Light Heavyweight- Ezzard Charles

Super Middleweight- Joe Calzaghe

Middleweight- Sugar Ray Robinson

Junior Middleweight- Thomas Hearns

Welterweight- Sugar Ray Robinson

Junior Welterweight- Barney Ross

Lightweight (tie)- Roberto Duran, Benny Leonard

Junior Lightweight- Alexis Arguello

Featherweight- Willie Pep

Junior Featherweight- Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez

Bantamweight- Eder Jofre

Junior Bantamweight- Khaosai Galaxy

Flyweight- Jimmy Wilde

Junior Flyweight- Jung-Koo Chang

Strawweight- Ricardo "Finito" Lopez

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:08 pm

See....I could've swore I just did this list like 5 minutes ago, and now it's not here.

For the record the only differences I'd have from yours KStat.

Andre Ward #1 at Super Middle

Aaron Pryor #1 at Jr. Welter

Duran #1 at Lightweight

Sandy Saddler #1 at Featherweight

KSTAT124 · Post by **KSTAT124** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:35 pm

gilgamesh wrote:See....I could've swore I just did this list like 5 minutes ago, and now it's not here.

For the record the only differences I'd have from yours KStat.

Andre Ward #1 at Super Middle

Aaron Pryor #1 at Jr. Welter

Duran #1 at Lightweight

Sandy Saddler #1 at Featherweight

With the exception of the super bantamweight/junior featherweight list, the lists were based on more than just one opinion.

Ward finished #4 at 168, Greb #2 at 160, Pryor #3 at 140, and Saddler #2 at 126.

Chocolatito finished 4th at 105 and 12th at 108. He did not finish in the top 22 at 112.

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