Rank these Manny Steward trained guys in order....

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Rank these Manny Steward trained guys in order....

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Of greatness/accomplishments.

Note: Best may not necessarily mean most accomplished. For example, my lists would read as follows:

In terms of who I believe were the the better overall boxers:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Tommy Hearns
3. Wlad Klitschko

But as as far as accomplishments:

1. Lewis
2. Klitschko
3. Hearns
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Better Boxer:
Hearns was the better boxer by a landslide. An ATG Welterweight/SWW, and very accomplished at MW, will always be a better boxer, than even the best boxing HW. Lennox and Wlad, basically fought with the same Steward blueprint(jab/right hand). But Lennox was far more fluid, and less robotic than Wlad.

Accomplishments:
It's hard to argue with smaller guys, who have moved up, and won titles in multiple weight classes. Hearns takes this this as well. HWs(for the most part) may be unfairly constricted by only being able to fight in one weight class, but this means they really have to do a lot of special things to surpass smaller fighters' accomplishments. Hearns also had to advantage of fighting some of the best fighters in history. Yeah, he lost some of those fights, but there is no shame in that because the level of competition was so high. Lennox and Wlad, lost to guys they were definitely heavily favored over.
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Logically I'd probably go with Hearns at the top so far as the best boxer.

But strictly answering the question, Wlad would have to be at the top of both lists. Wlad never lost a fight while being trained by Manny.
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Hit Man tops no doubt, a fighter for the ages.
Lennox was the man at Heavy for his era.
Vitally had more heart than Wladdy.
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Cagiva9 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 6:21 pm Logically I'd probably go with Hearns at the top so far as the best boxer.

But strictly answering the question, Wlad would have to be at the top of both lists. Wlad never lost a fight while being trained by Manny.
I'm pretty sure Steward was working his corner for Brewster 1.
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Oh and also. Hearns is Steward's most accomplished, and most talented fighter. Lewis and Wlad are definitely highly noteworthy Champions with Hall of Fame careers in their own right, but Tommy was better than them from what I see.
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gilgamesh wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 6:35 am
Cagiva9 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 6:21 pm Logically I'd probably go with Hearns at the top so far as the best boxer.

But strictly answering the question, Wlad would have to be at the top of both lists. Wlad never lost a fight while being trained by Manny.
I'm pretty sure Steward was working his corner for Brewster 1.
He was. Might have been their first one together
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jeff_lacy_ko wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 8:02 am
gilgamesh wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 6:35 am
Cagiva9 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 6:21 pm Logically I'd probably go with Hearns at the top so far as the best boxer.

But strictly answering the question, Wlad would have to be at the top of both lists. Wlad never lost a fight while being trained by Manny.
I'm pretty sure Steward was working his corner for Brewster 1.
He was. Might have been their first one together
Yep, there goes that theory.
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Hearns
Lewis
Wlad

Lewis is one the the best HWs of all time, but Hearns was special. Win or lose you were getting a WAR! Anybody that is new to boxing and wants a sample to this day I show them Hagler vs Hearns. One of the best fights you will ever see, afterwards your like a crack head looking for another one like it.
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Hearns/Wlad/Lewis
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Big fan of McClellan if we're only talking boxer... He had the most effective 2 punch combo ever i think

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