And this is the third of the three threads which I think will fit in well in the Old School section.
I'll try, over the next few weeks or so, to complete the project FightFanAL began.
TTR project
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As great as Burley was, some rate him in the top ten of all-time, I'm not sure exactly where he fits in. I have him on my Honorable Mention list but that might be too low. I still have to complete my own top 20 (two spots to go) before trying to compile TTR's.RASTA666 wrote:Woo I cant believe you and I forget Burley I should have also included Moore in mine. Funny how when you revisit these things how you realize who you missed. A little shocking to me how low Gans and Langford are on some peoples lists.
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Sugar Ray Robinson
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Willie Pep
Roberto Duran
Benny Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Sam Langford
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Willie Pep
Roberto Duran
Benny Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Sam Langford
The fighters he's beaten aren't even household names in their own household.
"Never shall innocent blood be shed. Yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river. The three shall spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful striking hammer of god."
"Never shall innocent blood be shed. Yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river. The three shall spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful striking hammer of god."
I tend to overlook people on every list. I should take more time to do these things. Their are several others I could have put in. The second guessing always gets to me afterward.KSTAT124 wrote:As great as Burley was, some rate him in the top ten of all-time, I'm not sure exactly where he fits in. I have him on my Honorable Mention list but that might be too low. I still have to complete my own top 20 (two spots to go) before trying to compile TTR's.RASTA666 wrote:Woo I cant believe you and I forget Burley I should have also included Moore in mine. Funny how when you revisit these things how you realize who you missed. A little shocking to me how low Gans and Langford are on some peoples lists.
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TTR's All-Time Top 20 plus:
Ranking. Boxer's Name (Total Number of First Place Votes).....Total Points
1. Sugar Ray Robinson (10).....237
2. Henry Armstrong (1).....204
3. Muhammad Ali.....201
4. Harry Greb (1).....149
5. Willie Pep.....148
6. Joe Louis.....131
7. Benny Leonard.....127
8. Roberto Duran.....110
9. Sugar Ray Leonard.....108
10. Joe Gans.....64
11. Bob Fitzsimmons.....62
12. Jimmy Wilde.....60
13. Sam Langford.....55
14. (tie) Marvelous Marvin Hagler.....53
14. (tie) Eder Jofre.....53
16. Mickey Walker.....47
17. Barney Ross.....43
18. Gene Tunney.....41
19. Ezzaed Charles.....35
20. Sandy Saddler.....33
Others receiving points:
21. Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker.....28
22. Alexis Arguello.....25
23. Carlos Monzon.....15
24. Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles.....14
25. (tie) Jack Dempsey.....10
25. (tie) Thomas Hearns.....10
27. Salvador Sanchez.....9
28. (tie) Tony Canzoneri.....8
28. (tie) Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez.....8
30. (tie) Bernard Hopkins.....7
30. (tie) Ricardo "Finito" Lopez.....7
30. (tie) Jimmy McLarnin.....7
33. (tie) Carlos Ortiz.....6
33. (tie) Tommy Ryan.....6
35. Archie Moore.....5
36. Julio Cesar Chavez.....4
37. (tie) Bob Foster.....3
37. (tie) Jack Johnson.....3
39. (tie) Charley Burley.....2
39. (tie) Roy Jones, Jr......2
41. (tie) Wilfred Benitez.....1
41. (tie) George Dixon.....1
41. (tie) Manny Pacquiao.....1
This project was started by FightFanAL in July 2009. In May of this year, I volunteered to finish the work he started. I finally did tonight. I would have preferred if no active fighters had been included. I didn't include any on my list mainly because, in my opinion, you need time to reflect on a fighter's career. Where he and his opponents fit in historically is usually best assessed after the fighter has been retired for a minimum of five years. Be that as it may, there were no stipulations to exclude active fighters.
Ranking. Boxer's Name (Total Number of First Place Votes).....Total Points
1. Sugar Ray Robinson (10).....237
2. Henry Armstrong (1).....204
3. Muhammad Ali.....201
4. Harry Greb (1).....149
5. Willie Pep.....148
6. Joe Louis.....131
7. Benny Leonard.....127
8. Roberto Duran.....110
9. Sugar Ray Leonard.....108
10. Joe Gans.....64
11. Bob Fitzsimmons.....62
12. Jimmy Wilde.....60
13. Sam Langford.....55
14. (tie) Marvelous Marvin Hagler.....53
14. (tie) Eder Jofre.....53
16. Mickey Walker.....47
17. Barney Ross.....43
18. Gene Tunney.....41
19. Ezzaed Charles.....35
20. Sandy Saddler.....33
Others receiving points:
21. Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker.....28
22. Alexis Arguello.....25
23. Carlos Monzon.....15
24. Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles.....14
25. (tie) Jack Dempsey.....10
25. (tie) Thomas Hearns.....10
27. Salvador Sanchez.....9
28. (tie) Tony Canzoneri.....8
28. (tie) Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez.....8
30. (tie) Bernard Hopkins.....7
30. (tie) Ricardo "Finito" Lopez.....7
30. (tie) Jimmy McLarnin.....7
33. (tie) Carlos Ortiz.....6
33. (tie) Tommy Ryan.....6
35. Archie Moore.....5
36. Julio Cesar Chavez.....4
37. (tie) Bob Foster.....3
37. (tie) Jack Johnson.....3
39. (tie) Charley Burley.....2
39. (tie) Roy Jones, Jr......2
41. (tie) Wilfred Benitez.....1
41. (tie) George Dixon.....1
41. (tie) Manny Pacquiao.....1
This project was started by FightFanAL in July 2009. In May of this year, I volunteered to finish the work he started. I finally did tonight. I would have preferred if no active fighters had been included. I didn't include any on my list mainly because, in my opinion, you need time to reflect on a fighter's career. Where he and his opponents fit in historically is usually best assessed after the fighter has been retired for a minimum of five years. Be that as it may, there were no stipulations to exclude active fighters.
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