The Official NFL Thread

[TheSickness316]

The ATGs are judged by rings. Rodgers isn't just any ol' starting QB. We have to judge him accordingly, not just as a regular NFL starting QB, as he was just mentioned as "the most talented QB of all-time".

So Dan Marino is an underachiever?

[TheSickness316]

And since you're going to bring up rings, you going to take Eli Manning over Aaron Rodgers?

[KiNg_DaDdY_2o9]

No, poor Marino, unfortunately for him, he never had the teams Rodgers had. Never had a running game. Never had any big play WRs. Year after year it was Marino and a buncha scrubs. Anonymous RBs, weak WRs, just sorry teams overall.

In any case, TB12 is the GOAT.

[KiNg_DaDdY_2o9]

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[TheSickness316]

No, poor Marino, unfortunately for him, he never had the teams Rodgers had. Never had a running game. Never had any big play WRs. Year after year it was Marino and a buncha scrubs. Anonymous RBs, weak WRs, just sorry teams overall.

In any case, TB12 is the GOAT.

But you said all time greats are judged based on rings. Marino has 0, so based on what you said Marino is the definition of an underachiever. Now you're just changing what you're saying based on the quarterback that is brought up.

[KiNg_DaDdY_2o9]

Marino didn't underachieve. You have to look up the definition of the word. He made do with what he had, which was very little. Underachieve means to not reach what you're expected to accommplish. Marino's teams weren't expected to make SB runs, Rodgers' are. Every year the experts pick the Packers to make the SB and they never make it. Interepret the context of the word in how it's being used and don't take everything at face value.

[TheSickness316]

Marino didn't underachieve. You have to look up the definition of the word. He made do with what he had, which was very little. Underachieve means to not reach what you're expected to accommplish. Marino's teams weren't expected to make SB runs, Rodgers' are. Every year the experts pick the Packers to make the SB and they never make it. Interepret the context of the word in how it's being used and don't take everything at face value.

Not expected to make superbowl runs? They went to the superbowl in his 2nd season.

And yes, Marino did underachieve since you said all time greats are judged based on their rings. Marino is considered an all time great yet has no rings. So Dan Marino is the definition you described. So don't bring up this whole thing of face value. Stick to your convictions of your definition of how all time greats are judged and either judge Marino accordingly and say Marino is an underachiever or admit your definition of how judging all time greats is bullshit and you're just picking and choosing depending on who you like.

[ObJuan13]

Aaron fucking Rodgers!!!

Is the new overrated media darling of the NFL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I think you meant the most talented QB of all-time.

Nah, not even, but proves my point.

However, even if he was who cares? It’s a cerebral position, there are only a hand full of quarterbacks who are/were truly great athletes and Rodgers ain’t one of em. He loses big games way too often.

[Hillsinitialrebirth]

Man...does Derek Carr suck??? Yeah...we sure paid and kept the right guy(sigh).

[ObJuan13]

Man...does Derek Carr suck??? Yeah...we sure paid and kept the right guy(sigh).

Yeah, that was bad. One of those Matthew Stanford types who’s too good to move on from but too sucky to win big games.

He’s still young though, hopefully he gets better

[NoPropaganda 253]

No, poor Marino, unfortunately for him, he never had the teams Rodgers had. Never had a running game. Never had any big play WRs. Year after year it was Marino and a buncha scrubs. Anonymous RBs, weak WRs, just sorry teams overall.

In any case, TB12 is the GOAT.

Goat, Indeed. Mark Duper and Clayton were nice weapons for Dan back in the day.

[5_burowz]

Marino didn't underachieve. You have to look up the definition of the word. He made do with what he had, which was very little. .

So Mark Duper and Mark Clayton sucked? Whu?

[KiNg_DaDdY_2o9]

Wtf does any of this have to do with Rodgers being an underachiever? Quit creating a diversion. The MF has one ring. One. One ring is fine for the likes of Joe Flacco, not for "the most talented QB of all-time".

It'd be like Floyd only being a one time champ.

[ObJuan13]

Wtf does any of this have to do with Rodgers being an underachiever? Quit creating a diversion. The MF has one ring. One. One ring is fine for the likes of Joe Flacco, not for "the most talented QB of all-time".

It'd be like Floyd only being a one time champ.

Pretty much. Rodgers is great, but sorry he’s still overrated. He gets all time praise for simply being great. He’s got a great arm, moves well and and makes good pre snap adjustments, but there are quite a few QBs in the history of the game that are just plain better and I don’t understand why people ride his nuts so hard. I personally think he’ll win another one but until then, he’s kinda just a regular season QB

[KiNg_DaDdY_2o9]

Wtf does any of this have to do with Rodgers being an underachiever? Quit creating a diversion. The MF has one ring. One. One ring is fine for the likes of Joe Flacco, not for "the most talented QB of all-time".

It'd be like Floyd only being a one time champ.

Pretty much. Rodgers is great, but sorry he’s still overrated. He gets all time praise for simply being great. He’s got a great arm, moves well and and makes good pre snap adjustments, but there are quite a few QBs in the history of the game that are just plain better and I don’t understand why people ride his nuts so hard. I personally think he’ll win another one but until then, he’s kinda just a regular season QB

I concede that Rodgers might be the "most talented QB of all-time", but so what? Just like RJJ, IMO, is the most naturally talented fighter of all-time, the actual resume just isn't there. Rodgers would have to win at least 1 if not 2 more to crack top 5 all-time before it's all said and done.

[ObJuan13]

Wtf does any of this have to do with Rodgers being an underachiever? Quit creating a diversion. The MF has one ring. One. One ring is fine for the likes of Joe Flacco, not for "the most talented QB of all-time".

It'd be like Floyd only being a one time champ.

Pretty much. Rodgers is great, but sorry he’s still overrated. He gets all time praise for simply being great. He’s got a great arm, moves well and and makes good pre snap adjustments, but there are quite a few QBs in the history of the game that are just plain better and I don’t understand why people ride his nuts so hard. I personally think he’ll win another one but until then, he’s kinda just a regular season QB

I concede that Rodgers might be the "most talented QB of all-time", but so what? Just like RJJ, IMO, is the most naturally talented fighter of all-time, the actual resume just isn't there. Rodgers would have to win at least 1 if not 2 more to crack top 5 all-time before it's all said and done.

I hear you and don’t think “the most talented ever” thing matters either, but for example, outside of accuracy, Cam is physically better than Rodgers at absolutely everything, but Rodgers and a few other guys are much better than Cam
because talent only takes you so far at that position. Bottom line is he loses too many big games, and in this era where QBs have a bigger impact in the outcome on games than ever before you must win. It’s that simple

It’s not like the days of Montana, Marino and Elway or even early Brady and Manning where teams could actually play defense, as a QB you have to win in this watered down defensive era.

[TheSickness316]

Wtf does any of this have to do with Rodgers being an underachiever? Quit creating a diversion. The MF has one ring. One. One ring is fine for the likes of Joe Flacco, not for "the most talented QB of all-time".

It'd be like Floyd only being a one time champ.

It has to do with the bullshit you put as a definition of how all time greats are judged by the rings they won and how you choose to not hold an all time great in Marino to the same definition you described.

[Freakzilla]

No, poor Marino, unfortunately for him, he never had the teams Rodgers had. Never had a running game. Never had any big play WRs. Year after year it was Marino and a buncha scrubs. Anonymous RBs, weak WRs, just sorry teams overall.

In any case, TB12 is the GOAT.

You know nothing about football if you actually think AR has a good team. They are one of the worst 4 teams without him.

[KiNg_DaDdY_2o9]

Teach me then, Mr know it all. Dude always thinks he knows it all about basketball and football. Stay in your lane.

[Freakzilla]

Teach me then, Mr know it all. Dude always thinks he knows it all about basketball and football. Stay in your lane.

This is my lane. You obviously don't know shit if you think the Packers are a good team without AR. They went 3-6 without him last year and their 3 wins were the Bucs, Bears and Browns. 3 teams that went a combined 10-38. Do everyone a favour and sit out the next couple of plays.

[supermaxpapic]

josh gordon released by the browns. heckuva talent, but can't keep his head on straight.

[J.J.Dillon]

josh gordon released by the browns. heckuva talent, but can't keep his head on straight.

Wait for it...

Fucking of course.

Belichick will play him 9 games and then get the pick back.

[ObJuan13]

Khalil Mack is the best player in the league

Smh at the raiders.., idk why it’s such a no no to trade overpaid QBs? Shoulda moved Carr and signed Mack (well maybe not, but they’d be able to compete right now if they kept Mack and had a QB who takes care of the ball... well... maybe not... that roster really sucks)

Hopefully they bounce back. My 2nd favorite AFC team

[J.J.Dillon]

So...Amari Cooper for a late 1st-round pick.

Is there any evidence that Gruden is NOT a secret agent from the Broncos, sent to destroy the Raiders from within?

[TheSickness316]

So...Amari Cooper for a late 1st-round pick.

Is there any evidence that Gruden is NOT a secret agent from the Broncos, sent to destroy the Raiders from within?

For you to think it will be a late round pick, you must believe the Cowboys are going to the playoffs.