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Thurman vs Spence

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I'd take Spence to win a clear decision. 116-111 or wider. Wouldn't shock me if he stopped Thurman late in the fight either.
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Thurman isn't going to stand in front of Spence like Brook. I see a tactical fight with some big shots, but will ultimately be difficult to score.
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I don't think it'd be that difficult to score. I figure Spence would be able to beat Thurman at most aspects of the game, and would outwork him in most rounds.
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Thurman needs to channel some guts and go for the KO. Otherwise he gets his ears boxed.
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I'll take Spence UD or late stoppage. I see it going down similar to the Pac vs Cotto fight but not quite. Winner should face Pac, Mayweather, or Crawford. Best vs the best.
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Thurman would be Run Time in this one...
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I got Spence by stoppage. I don't think Thurman is as good as Brook. Thurman is a top fighter, but he more of an athletic fighter, than a skilled boxer who would fundamentally give Spence problems like Brook did. Thurman moves a lot in the ring, but he's more on the run like a Dirrell than a Mayweather, and Spence would kill him if he came with the Danny Garcia game plan. He would have a great speed advantage vs Spence, but Spence's range would kill Thurman. Plus he has decent speed and great power. Spence aint no Danny Garcia. Spence will catch Thurman a lot, but Thurman would have his moments.

Some may think Thurman could run through Spence because he did not look great vs Brook. Brook kept a tight defense and countered Spence at will in the first half of their fight. Thurman can't do what Brook did with Spence because he isn't a boxer. He'll tag and run, not stand there and box. Spence struggled until Brook broke down. Brook also hit Spence with everything and couldn't even hurt him, and constantly tagged him. I think that's a bad omen for Thurman who will be on the back foot all night vs Spence. One time could possibly see the final bell if he fights on survival mode. He just doesn't have what it takes to beat Spence.
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In Spence's post fight interview he stated "I showed a great chin" which equates to "there are huge deficiencies in my defense." Catching flush power shots on the championship level is a recipe for disaster. Thuman's mobility and power pose major problems for Spence.
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Spence beats Thurman rather handily. The only real competition I see for him is Pac, and if Crawford moves up to 147.
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Spence is just better than the overrated Thurman. And unlike Garcia, Spence has the foot speed and foot skill, to cut off the ring when Thurman puts on his track shoes. Spence batters him into submission late....
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Run time will suck the fun out of the fight
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I feel like this fight gets marinade and seasoning until 2019
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I think that Thurman's chances against Spence are being underestimated. He does a lot of things well that were working for Kell yesterday. He uses a lot of short straight punches and when he's in range he rarely if ever just stands there plotting his next move. Thurman is always in motion or he's tieing up. Unlike Kell, Thurman looks awkward and can be hard to watch when he's in constant motion but also pretty hard to draw a bead on.
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How do you see it, Wimp? Breakdown some boxing.

I'd favor Spence in a close fight. Imo Thurman hit's harder than Brook, possesses better timing, iis more mobile, a better boxer, and has more will. Even then, Spence will probably be too much. Too long, hits too damn hard, cuts off the ring well, does not rattle, has a solid chin. Too much pressure for Keith who would finish the fight and do better than Brook in rounds.
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Cagiva9 wrote:I think that Thurman's chances against Spence are being underestimated. He does a lot of things well that were working for Kell yesterday. He uses a lot of short straight punches and when he's in range he rarely if ever just stands there plotting his next move. Thurman is always in motion or he's tieing up. Unlike Kell, Thurman looks awkward and can be hard to watch when he's in constant motion but also pretty hard to draw a bead on.
He rarely ties up. Ever. Think Porter, fight George. Now contrast with the way Brook had to win.
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NoPropaganda 253 wrote:
Cagiva9 wrote:I think that Thurman's chances against Spence are being underestimated. He does a lot of things well that were working for Kell yesterday. He uses a lot of short straight punches and when he's in range he rarely if ever just stands there plotting his next move. Thurman is always in motion or he's tieing up. Unlike Kell, Thurman looks awkward and can be hard to watch when he's in constant motion but also pretty hard to draw a bead on.
He rarely ties up. Ever. Think Porter, fight George. Now contrast with the way Brook had to win.
Yeah you're right, not much tying up, a few times when Porter landed to the body but not often.
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Brook is clearly a better boxer than Thurman, and Spence figured Brook out and began to take him apart.
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Kool Keith has better footwork, actually works off the jab, anticipates in-coming shots quicker and has better timing than Brook. Kell is not a better boxer. Typing "clearly" doesn't make it so.

You just mad at that pony tail, buddy. :)
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NoPropaganda 253 wrote:Kool Keith has better footwork, actually works off the jab, anticipates in-coming shots quicker and has better timing than Brook. Kell is not a better boxer. Typing "clearly" doesn't make it so.

You just mad at that pony tail, buddy. :)
I think that Kell showed an outstanding jab yesterday - and he timed it well, which gave Spence some early issues. I don't think that Thurman's timing or his ability to control the distance of the fight is at the level of Brook.

I do agree that he works off of the jab and that he can throw some nice straight punches... however, he won't be as quick as Brook was with his hands. His footwork may be quicker than Brook was, but Brook positioned himself VERY nicely against Spence.

It is hard to say whether or not Thurman poses the same amount of problems for Spence that Kell did early, but I can say that it would make sense to me that Spence will be better and will learn from what just happened.
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One thing for sure is that when the time comes Thurman should negotiate the largest ring possible.
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NoPropaganda 253 wrote:How do you see it, Wimp? Breakdown some boxing.

I'd favor Spence in a close fight. Imo Thurman hit's harder than Brook, possesses better timing, iis more mobile, a better boxer, and has more will. Even then, Spence will probably be too much. Too long, hits too damn hard, cuts off the ring well, does not rattle, has a solid chin. Too much pressure for Keith who would finish the fight and do better than Brook in rounds.
I don't have a bead on how these two will match up. That's the reason I asked.
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Re: Thurman vs Spence

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I don't think Thurman is that good. Spence's body work will eat him up.
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Slippery Pete II wrote:Spence beats Thurman rather handily. The only real competition I see for him is Pac, and if Crawford moves up to 147.
Manny cannot beat any of the elite WWs, he will fight a JWW brought up to WW he will not fight a Thurman Spence Porter.

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